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Holy Grail?
Dec 18, 07:58 PM 2014
From testing my main system it seems I've just discovered a major exploit in roulette.

Here we are only ever betting on 1 double street at a time: wait for a double street to appear then bet on it hoping for a repeat. If you lose then bet on the new double street that appeared instead, but using the progression below. Once you win then start over with the progression, but wait for a new double street to appear before betting on it (or it may work staying on the winning DS - just for the first spin).

Every time a DS repeats you win 1-5 units

Progression: 1   1   1   1   1   2   2   2   3   3   4   5   6   7   8   10   12   14   17   21   25   30   36   43   52   62   74

Although a DS can sleep for 79 spins I don't think it will happen whilst chasing the lead.

Alternatively, you can flat-bet this for 5 units profit every win or -1 unit every loss, but you must keep switching to a different DS depending on the last one that came in.


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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 18, 08:41 PM 2014
I'm not seeing a loss in either direction of those last 185 spins:

10,36,9,17,3,26,20,21 (win!)
18,36,15,31,34,12,8 (win!)

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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 18, 08:45 PM 2014
3rd row up from bottom start at 18. Unless i missed something

If u start at 18 doesnt it lose? Thats more then 20 misses in a row. It does very well until u get to that 18.

This is a good idea though
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o

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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 18, 08:58 PM 2014
18, 24, 25, 31, 17, 3, 1 (win!)
18, 35, 6, 16, 27, 22, 14, 31, 16, 32, 21, 12, 5, 26, 8, 20, 7, 29, 36, 22, 33, 5, 32, 3, 14, 36, 24, 7, 16, 14 (win)

Right you are! Those numbers would have needed a longer progression of 30 steps:
1   1   1   1   1   2   2   2   3   3   4   5   6   7   8   10   12   14   17   21   25   30   36   43   52   62   74   89   107   128

Perhaps it's too dangerous using a progression? I did discover it using flat-betting.

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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 18, 09:00 PM 2014
I think with minor tweaks this can be a winner all the time. Maybe bet previous 2 double streets. I dont know
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o

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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 18, 09:04 PM 2014
Perhaps 30 losses in a row is an extreme event and plenty of profit would be made before that ever came
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o

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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 18, 09:09 PM 2014
It's a possibility - or it may be a warning. I guess testing it over several thousand spins might be the only way to find out.

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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 18, 09:21 PM 2014
I had a similar idea with the colums

Use progression 1 1 2 3 4 6 9 13 20

Bet on last column to show
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 18, 09:43 PM 2014
you only betting on 1 DS?
your progression result in a lost starting from the 10th bet

Units to bet   Net Gain   total Stake
1   4   1
1   3   2
1   2   3
1   1   4
1   0   5
2   3   7
2   1   9
2   -1   11
3   1   14
3   -2   17
4   -1   21
5   -1   26
6   -2   32
7   -4   39
8   -7   47
10   -7   57
12   -9   69
14   -13   83
17   -15   100
21   -16   121
25   -21   146
30   -26   176
36   -32   212
43   -40   255
52   -47   307
62   -59   369
74   -73   443

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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 18, 10:50 PM 2014
I just tested 200 000 single zero RNG spins.  Longest session ended on Spin 68.

Here is the table:

2   4212
3   3352
4   2828
5   2448
6   2108
7   1760
8   1543
9   1262
10   1064
11   862
12   760
13   646
14   535
15   448
16   403
17   364
18   284
19   229
20   188
21   176
22   142
23   112
24   102
25   103
26   80
27   70
28   62
29   55
30   31
31   46
32   29
33   33
34   21
35   17
36   14
37   13
38   16
39   8
40   10
41   8
42   6
43   2
44   3
45   3
46   3
47   2
48   1
49   2
50   1
51   1
52   2
53   1
54   0
55   1
56   0
57   0
58   0
59   1
60   0
61   0
62   1
63   0
64   0
65   0
66   0
67   1
68   1
   26476


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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 19, 01:48 AM 2014
you only betting on 1 DS?
your progression result in a lost starting from the 10th bet

Units to bet   Net Gain   total Stake
1   4   1
1   3   2
1   2   3
1   1   4
1   0   5
2   3   7
2   1   9
2   -1   11
3   1   14
3   -2   17
4   -1   21
5   -1   26
6   -2   32
7   -4   39
8   -7   47
10   -7   57
12   -9   69
14   -13   83
17   -15   100
21   -16   121
25   -21   146
30   -26   176
36   -32   212
43   -40   255
52   -47   307
62   -59   369
74   -73   443

Actually his progression returns a profit at every stage:

Units to bet   Net Gain   Total Stake
1   5   1
1   4   2
1   3   3
1   2   4
1   1   5
2   5   7
2   3   9
2   1   11
3   4   14
3   1   17
4   3   21
5   4   26
6   4   32
7   3   39
8   1   47
10   3   57
12   3   69
14   1   83
17   2   100
21   5   121
25   4   146
30   4   176
36   4   212
43   3   255
52   5   307
62   3   369
74   1   443

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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 19, 01:57 AM 2014
ic
there was a error on my progression calculator :xd:
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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 19, 04:14 AM 2014
Hi,

Oddly enough I was trying this yesterday!
I even waited first for 12 non-repeat lines before using a 30-step progression on FTL line.
Most times it will work - but just saying beware - I encountered a bust in only a few hundred real spins.
Am sure this has been rejected before. I think a "fail" rather than "grail"...
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Re: Holy Grail?
Dec 19, 07:05 AM 2014
From testing my main system it seems I've just discovered a major exploit in roulette.

Here we are only ever betting on 1 double street at a time: wait for a double street to appear then bet on it hoping for a repeat. If you lose then bet on the new double street that appeared instead, but using the progression below. Once you win then start over with the progression, but wait for a new double street to appear before betting on it (or it may work staying on the winning DS - just for the first spin).

Every time a DS repeats you win 1-5 units

Progression: 1   1   1   1   1   2   2   2   3   3   4   5   6   7   8   10   12   14   17   21   25   30   36   43   52   62   74

Although a DS can sleep for 79 spins I don't think it will happen whilst chasing the lead.

Alternatively, you can flat-bet this for 5 units profit every win or -1 unit every loss, but you must keep switching to a different DS depending on the last one that came in.

Pls explain: If it is so easy why messing around with that warrior-thing?
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