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Started by psimoes, Jan 10, 11:05 AM 2015

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psimoes

Now we know what to bet for all runs.

For runs of three:

OOO(O)
EEE(E)
OEO(O)
EOE(E)
OEE(O)
EOO(E)
OOE(O)
EEO(E)

We can bet continuously most of the time, if not all time, after noting the first three outcomes. If it started with say, OEE, we bet the next spin is O. (If) we lose we take note and wait for the next time OEE shows up.
Now first four spins are OEEE. New run of three is EEE. We bet E. We lost again. Now it's going OEEEO. New run is EEO. Bet E. Win! New run is now EOE and we bet E. Win! Newest run is now OEE! Will it break again? Let's keep betting for the repeat. Bet O. Win! New run is now EEO. Again. Nevermind, bet for the repeat. Bet E. Win! New run is now EOE. Again. What now? It's up to the player...
[Math+1] beats a Math game

psimoes

Betting like above has the same chances of winning and losing as betting just for the more noticeable outcomes OOO EEE OEO EOE. Choosing to bet only on the latter we're limiting our chances to win, but we're also less exposed to losses. It's perhaps the reason why the simple bets of our past studies, such as L2A+L1F have been getting favourable results.

There's something about the grid not yet explored: it's betting vertically and horizontally at the same time, with the same type of bet selection. Such as betting for the continuity of runs of four. We note the first four outcomes and bet on the fifth, the 6th, 7th and so on continuously until 12 spins had passed, forming the three columns. After that we're able to bet vertically. If both horizontal and vertical bets agree, we bet. If not, we skip the spin. I'm going to test this with real spins. Fingers crossed.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

atlantis

Quote from: psimoes on Jan 20, 11:48 AM 2015
Now we know what to bet for all runs.

For runs of three:

OOO(O)
EEE(E)
OEO(O)
EOE(E)
OEE(O)
EOO(E)
OOE(O)
EEO(E)

We can bet continuously most of the time, if not all time, after noting the first three outcomes. If it started with say, OEE, we bet the next spin is O. (If) we lose we take note and wait for the next time OEE shows up.
Now first four spins are OEEE. New run of three is EEE. We bet E. We lost again. Now it's going OEEEO. New run is EEO. Bet E. Win! New run is now EOE and we bet E. Win! Newest run is now OEE! Will it break again? Let's keep betting for the repeat. Bet O. Win! New run is now EEO. Again. Nevermind, bet for the repeat. Bet E. Win! New run is now EOE. Again. What now? It's up to the player...

I like it! ;)
Optionally just bet every third result back...
We can probably dispense with the matrix and the symmetry; apart from what you just stated of course.
Just need an appropriate and good EC progression to suit.
Good work.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

psimoes

Quote from: psimoes on Jan 20, 12:01 PM 2015I'm going to test this with real spins. Fingers crossed.

Nope. Not worth posting. Just to say Col.1 had mostly Losses (incl. six in a row) and Col.2 & 3 had mostly wins. Lots of No Bets, though. Too many.

Quote from: psimoes on Jan 20, 11:48 AM 2015
Now we know what to bet for all runs.

For runs of three:

OOO(O)
EEE(E)
OEO(O)
EOE(E)
OEE(O)
EOO(E)
OOE(O)
EEO(E)

We can bet continuously most of the time, if not all time, after noting the first three outcomes. If it started with say, OEE, we bet the next spin is O. (If) we lose we take note and wait for the next time OEE shows up.
Now first four spins are OEEE. New run of three is EEE. We bet E. We lost again. Now it's going OEEEO. New run is EEO. Bet E. Win! New run is now EOE and we bet E. Win! Newest run is now OEE! Will it break again? Let's keep betting for the repeat. Bet O. Win! New run is now EEO. Again. Nevermind, bet for the repeat. Bet E. Win! New run is now EOE. Again. What now? It's up to the player...

Attached. Same usual LW trends...

How about flat betting? Can't remember of a losing session, from all posted...
[Math+1] beats a Math game

atlantis

Hi psimoes,

Thx for your new sheet. :)

Do you think we should bet each of the 8 "triads" (for want of a better word) with its own separate progression then?

From your results it  seems it would pay dividends; producing a profit for each individual triad pattern (would help to avoid the rising progressions on longer runs of L's that you can get with a single progression)

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

psimoes

Quote from: atlantis on Jan 20, 02:48 PM 2015
Hi psimoes,

Thx for your new sheet. :)

Do you think we should bet each of the 8 "triads" (for want of a better word) with its own separate progression then?

From your results it  seems it would pay dividends; producing a profit for each individual triad pattern (would help to avoid the rising progressions on longer runs of L's that you can get with a single progression)

A.

Hi atlantis. I wish we could use separate progs for each of the 8 triads, yes. Comparing strings of losses per triad vs. continuously, results resemble the grid's!

But it's only one short session. Who knows how it will develop. Only after a great number of trials we should make a decision. It should be easy to code some tracker for it, I think. Afterall the bet is on same as the antepenultimate, quite simple. When/where to apply progression is the complex part, I presume.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

atlantis

TRACK 12 NUMBERS. (BET=L3A+L2A ELSE L12F)
=======================================

1   E            E W            O L             E L            E W            E W                   
2   O           O W            O W            O W          O W            O W
3   O           O W            E L             O L            O W            O W
4   O           O W            O W           E L             O L             O W
5   E           E W             E L             O L            O L             E W
6   O           O W            E W            O W           O L             E L           
7   O           O W            O W            E L            O L             O W
8   E           O L             O W            O W           E W            O L
9   E           E W             E W            O W           E L             E W
10  O          O W            O W            E L            E W             E W
11  O          O W            E L             O L            O W             E L
12  O          E L              E W            E L            O L              E L

                 @1U           @1U           @1U          @2U           @2U                 

R/TOT =    +8              +12             +8             +8             +16

60 SPINS (12 tracked)  Profit = +16
Highest bet = 2u


NOW REAL MONEY SESSION (BET=L3A+L2A ELSE L12F)
==================================

1  E            E W            E W            E W           O L             O W  @2U
2  E            E W            O W            E L            E W            E W   @2U (+13) d to 1u
3  O            O W            W             O W            O L             O W  @1U
4  O            O W            E L            O L             E L             E L
5  E            E W            O L             O W          O L              E W
6  O            O W           O W            O L           O W             E L
7  O            O W            E L            E W            E W            O W
8  E            E W            E W            O L            E L              E W  * STOPPED HERE +15u
9  E            O L             O W            E L            O L         
10 O           O W          O W             E W            E W
11 O           E L            E W             O L             O L
12 O           E L            E W             E W            O W

                @1U            @1U            @1U         @1U     
R/TOT =     +6          +11 (*0)        +11           +9             +15

68 SPINS (12 tracked)  Profit = +15
Highest bet = 2u

Stake unit assessed after each 12 spins +/- 1u  (or reduce when reach new high in a set)

A.                             
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

psimoes

Hello atlantis! Sorry, how exactly are you betting?

If L3A+L2A means the first and second outcomes in a run of three must exactly match, those will be OOO EEE OOE EEO.

TRACK 12 NUMBERS. (BET=L3A+L2A ELSE L12F)
=======================================

1   E            E W                       
2   O           O W         
3   O           O W \___ match bet E           
4   O           O W /
5   E           E W           
6   O           O W <--- should be a Loss instead ?                 
7   O           O W                     
8   E           O L   <---- L12F here. Bet E and Win?   
9   E           E W  \___ don't match so next bet L12F     
10  O          O W /           
11  O          O W
12  O          E L <------ L12F. Bet O and Win ?
                               


And you started betting real money? Congrats, but you know what could happen...

@ALL: Thanks for your contributions. Really appreciated. Sorry if some replies haven't been adressed individually.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

atlantis

Here is explanation as to how I played:

TRACK 12 NUMBERS. (BET=L3A+L2A ELSE L12F)
==============================

1   E            E W    opp of 3 odds @ spin 10,11,12  (l3a+l2a)
2   O    ->    O W    l12a (same as spin2)       
3   O           O W    opp of spins 12,1,2 (l3a+l2a)       
4   O   ->    O W    l12a
5   E           E W     l3a+l2a       
6   O   ->    O W     l12a                 
7   O           O W    l3a+l2a                 
8   E   ->     O L      l12a
9   E           E W     l3a+l2a
10  O  ->    O W     l12a   
11  O          O W    l3a+l2a
12  O  ->     E L     l12a

I'm moving on to dozens system now though.
A.   
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

psimoes

Quote from: atlantis on Jan 22, 11:12 AM 2015
I'm moving on to dozens system now though.
A.   

That's the spirit for long-time winning (I think). Thanks!
[Math+1] beats a Math game

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