Dozens & Columns

[Carsch]

I haven't tested it enough for me to know how well it works. However, i've spent most of the day testing it on a online live casino and it's been doing fine. Maybe someone can test it further and maybe improve the idea here.

Bets are on one Doz and on one Col, both at the same time (that's 20 numbers).
INSIDE BETS (at least for one of them)

3 categories:

a) LAST shown Doz & Col (the Doz & Col that hit last)
b) BEFORE LAST shown Doz & Col (the Doz & Col that hit before last hit Doz & Col)
c) SLEEPER Doz & Col (the Doz & Col that has not hit for the longest)

We look for the category that did not show for the longest and we bet on it.

Ex: we haven't had a repeat of the last spun Doz or Col for the longest. Thus we bet on the LAST Doz and on the LAST Col until we get a hit. The hit will usually happen within 4 spins.

Ex: 32, 23, 13, 27  (27 being the last no. spun)
27 was a BEFORE LAST Doz and a SLEEPER col
Because the last spun no. is a BEFORE last and a SLEEPER, we want to bet on LAST..............because we haven't had a repeat of the LAST hit Doz or Col.
In this example, going by what hit last (no.27), we would bet on Doz 3 (25/36) and on Col 3 (3/36)

If for example, the next number spun is 14, we lose. Again, we continue betting LAST Doz and LAST Col. Here, because the last no. spun is 14, we bet Doz2 (13/24) & Col2 (2/35)
It's a good idea to stop the chase after 4 consecutive losses. Maybe just wait for a virtual win.

The progression i've been using: 1,1,2,3 as you lose, then go back down the ladder as you win.


Tisch:  T4
Datum:  2011-04-11
** Gewinnzahlen ***
N  Z  R
.......Doz/Col
30
24
25
27...LAST/B4 LAST...............next we want to bet on the SLEEPER Doz & Col
9.....Sleeper/LAST.............WON+16........next we bet on the B4 LAST Doz & Col
31....B4 LAST/B4 LAST.......WON+32.......wait for next spin
3......B4L/B4L..........................................wait again
13....SLEEPER/B4L..................................next we bet on the LAST Doz & Col
33....SLEEPER/B4L..............LOST+12......next, again we continue betting on LAST Doz/Col
12....S/LAST......................WON+28.......next bet is on B4 LAST Doz/Col
21....S/L.............................LOST+8.........continue with same last bets
35...S/S...............................LOST-12........continue with same bets but DOUBLE the bets
29...LAST/LAST....................LOST-52.......continue with same last bets (B4 L) TRIPPLE THE BETS
30...LAST/B4 L.....................WON-4.........next bet is SLEEPER............DOUBLE YOUR BETS
20....B4L/B4L.......................LOST-44........next: continue with same bet, TRIPPLE your bets
1.....S/S...............................WON+4..........next bet is LAST Doz/Col. DOUBLE YOUR BETS
31...S/LAST.........................WON+36.......next bet: B4 LAST. 1 UNIT BET
24...S/S...............................LOST+16..........continue with same bet
34...B4L/B4L.......................WON+32..........next bet: LAST Doz & LAST Col
24...B4L/B4L........................LOST+12..........next bet: same bet as before
31....B4L/B4L.......................LOST-8.............continue with same last bet, double your bets
25....LAST/LAST...................WON+24.........next bet: SLEEPER
13...B4L/LAST......................LOST+4...........same last bet. Double your bets
14....LAST/SLEEPER.............WON+36.........next bet: B4 LAST
31....B4L/B4L.......................WON+52..........wait for next spin
19.....B4L/LAST.............................................next bet: SLEEPER
18....LAST/SLEEPER...............WON+68.........next bet:B4L
36...B4L/LAST.........................WON+84.........next bet:LAST
35....LAST/SLEEPER................WON+100........next bet: B4L
17....B4L/LAST........................WON+116........next bet:SLEEPER
36....B4L/B4L..........................LOST+94............same last bet
16...B4L/SLEEPER....................WON+110..........next bet: LAST
18....LAST/B4L.........................WON+126..........next bet: SLEEPER
17....LAST/SLEEPER..................WON+142...........next bet:B4L
14....LAST/LAST........................LOST+122............same last bet
16....LAST/SLEEPER...................LOST+102.........same last bet, DOUBLE THE BETS
0...............................................LOST+62..............same last bet, TRIPPLE THE BETS
15....LAST/SLEEPER...................WON+110...........next bet:B4L......DOUBLE THE BETS
10...SLEEPER/B4L......................WON+142.............next bet: LAST
9.....LAST/B4L............................WON+158.............next bet: SLEEPER
4....LAST/B4L.............................LOST+138..............next bet: same as last (SLEEPER)
1.....LAST/LAST...........................LOST+118.............same as last. DOUBLE THE BETS
16...B4L/LAST..............................LOST+78................same as last. TRIPPLE THE BETS
25...SLEEPER/LAST......................WON+126...............next bet: B4L.......DOUBLE THE BETS
30....LAST/B4L..............................WON+158.............next bet: SLEEPER
29...LAST/SLEEPER.......................WON+174..............next bet:B4L

[ignatus]

Tried play this with columns only (RNG-funmode);


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+51u

(I used progression doz/col progression; 1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,31....etc)

I think this is one of the most clever column/dozen systems i've played. (and very fun too!) It works, from this short test. Excelent!


Thanks! 

[Carsch]

Thanks for the contribution, Ignatus.

[Tomla021]

this is pretty clever C guy--I tested a 100 spins and came up 42 units

[Tomla021]

tried 50 today just going for 1 hit after a set up and resetting on a win or loss and that worked also......anybody else been testing this?

[KoolKat]

I haven't tested it enough for me to know how well it works. However, i've spent most of the day testing it on a online live casino and it's been doing fine. Maybe someone can test it further and maybe improve the idea here.

Bets are on one Doz and on one Col, both at the same time (that's 20 numbers).
INSIDE BETS (at least for one of them)

3 categories:

a) LAST shown Doz & Col (the Doz & Col that hit last)
b) BEFORE LAST shown Doz & Col (the Doz & Col that hit before last hit Doz & Col)
c) SLEEPER Doz & Col (the Doz & Col that has not hit for the longest)

We look for the category that did not show for the longest and we bet on it.

Ex: we haven't had a repeat of the last spun Doz or Col for the longest. Thus we bet on the LAST Doz and on the LAST Col until we get a hit. The hit will usually happen within 4 spins.

Ex: 32, 23, 13, 27  (27 being the last no. spun)
27 was a BEFORE LAST Doz and a SLEEPER col
Because the last spun no. is a BEFORE last and a SLEEPER, we want to bet on LAST..............because we haven't had a repeat of the LAST hit Doz or Col.
In this example, going by what hit last (no.27), we would bet on Doz 3 (25/36) and on Col 3 (3/36)

If for example, the next number spun is 14, we lose. Again, we continue betting LAST Doz and LAST Col. Here, because the last no. spun is 14, we bet Doz2 (13/24) & Col2 (2/35)
It's a good idea to stop the chase after 4 consecutive losses. Maybe just wait for a virtual win.

The progression i've been using: 1,1,2,3 as you lose, then go back down the ladder as you win.


Tisch:  T4
Datum:  2011-04-11
** Gewinnzahlen ***
N  Z  R
.......Doz/Col
30
24
25
27...LAST/B4 LAST...............next we want to bet on the SLEEPER Doz & Col - Do we bet D1 CA?
9.....Sleeper/LAST.............WON+16........next we bet on the B4 LAST Doz & Col D1 won not col31....B4 LAST/B4 LAST.......WON+32.......wait for next spin
What do we bet here?

Hi I would like to do some manual testing, I just don't get the bet selection.? regards Koolkat

[Carsch]

Tisch:  T4
Datum:  2011-04-11
** Gewinnzahlen ***
N  Z  R
.......Doz/Col
30
24
25
27...LAST/B4 LAST...............next we want to bet on the SLEEPER Doz & Col - Do we bet D1 CA?

Because the last spin was a LAST & B4 LAST, we want to bet on SLEEPER, and we look for the Sleeper Dozen & the Sleeper Col. If we look at our previous spins, we'll see that Doz2 & Doz3 already showed up. Thus, our Sleeper Dozen is Doz1. As for the Col, we can see that the SLEEPER Col is the middle Col.

9.....Sleeper/LAST.............WON+16........next we bet on the B4 LAST Doz & Col D1 won not col31

You only need one of them to win.

....B4 LAST/B4 LAST.......WON+32.......wait for next spin[/font]
What do we bet here?

You don't bet. You need to wait till you have one of the Categories missing within the last two spins. In the example, because none of them is missing from the last 2 spins, you don't know what to bet on. So, wait for the next outcome.

[Tomla021]

I tested another 50 spins my way and ended up 39 units up, will compare w original

[Tomla021]

anyone testing this at all?

[yohannes.mr]

Thanks for Sharing 

[yohannes.mr]

Thanks for Sharing 

[Carsch]

I've came up with something, kind of a similar idea, but much simplier and has been working so far. Though i still have more tests to do with it.


This is how it goes:

Play the SLEEPER DOZ along with the SLEEPER COL

Bets are INSIDE.

We will use only 18 numbers as opposed to 20 numbers. Simply exclude any one number from the Dozen, and any other one number from the Column.


Progression: 1,2,3,4.................LOSE and WAIT for a virtual win, and restart

Try this and you'll be amzed how this one performs.

Average win (so far as tested) with one bust for every 75 spins: 4.5 u. per spin

Or 450u./100 spins

I played this one on a machine last night (real money) for about 2 hrs (around  150 spins) and only busted once. My profit was something like 600 u.

With my test, in 800 spins it busted in average once every 75 spins. 


The other progression i have in mind and which i still need to test is 1,2,3. Other than these, the other progressions i've tried fail.

[Carsch]

Count Zero as a regular loss and continue with the progression.

If one of the excluded numbers show up, count it as neutral and accept the loss. If in the middle of a progression, do not raise your bets. Simply use the same unit as you did on your last bets.

[ewarwoowar]

Hello carsch, are you still playing this method at all?
When you talk about a bust, do you mean 1,2,3,4 and bust?

Thanks.