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The strategy that I use at the casino

Started by FreeRoulette, Jul 12, 06:19 PM 2013

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soggett

Quote from: ausguy on Jul 13, 02:54 PM 2013
IG - I get better results on ECs. I don't bet on the inside chances. Sleeping/hot numbers aren't very relevant to my EC betting.

Here's a sample of some EC bets on Rapid Roulette (live dealer wheel & seated touch screen terminals) bet limits $10 min. & $1,000 max. from March this year. I don't win every session but certainly over the last 4 months (I'm retired now) I'm a few $k ahead. I've had a few health problems this year (blood pressure & fluid [swelling] which has limited my casino visits. Things are getting better of late so I hope to be back in the saddle in a couple of weeks. Meanwhile I fatten my BR.

A sea change calls to get me out of this crowded city (SYDNEY), consistant wins holds the key.

I've chosen odd & even betting using the numbers only just to demo the value of Vbets as on that visit I played Marty alternating the 3 ECs = H/L, O/E & R/B same as last spin. On that visit I won $1,610 in 6 1/2 hours, more then enough to get a new designer shirt from the casino arcade shops, if needed & some gold chains.

All the bets are the same as the last spin starting at line 72 (random pick) as trigger = T.  T. is also required after any zero drop.  The betting has 7 levels of progression off the $10 min. I chose the Vbet to kick in after the 3rd straight loss. Any next level bet requires a Vbet win to trigger your next higher bet. An option is some Zero insurance bets (IB) at Levels 4 - 7. Bets average close to 1 spin per min.

72. 17B T.,  73. 9R O 10W +10, 74. 12R O 10L +00, 75. 36R E20W +20, 76. 2B E10W +30, 77. 5R E10L +20, 78. Z O20L +00, 79. 26B T. +00, 80. 30R E40W +40

81. 7R E10L +30, 82. 29B O20W +50, 83. 27R 010W +60, 84. 7R O10W +70, 85. 27R O10W +80, 86. 13B O10W +90, 87. 24B O10L +80, 88. 10B E20W +100,

89. 26B E10W +110, 90. 15B E10L +100, 91. 35B O20W +120, 92. 18R O10L + 110, 93. 22B E20W +130, 94. 25R E10L +120, 95. 28B O20L 100, 96. 27R E40L +60

& 3RD LEVEL LOSS. 97. 32R O VbetL +60, 98. 25R E VL +60, 99. Z O VL +60, 100. 30R T +60., 101 20B EVbetW +60, 102 8B E80W +140 or IB = E85 & Z5 =85 - 5 = 80W & same same +140.

The Vbet value here means only betting at L4 & $80 instead of L6 & $320. I'll do a few more spins but I think you get the idea.

103. 30R E10W +150, 104. 20B E10W +160, 105. 20B E10W +170, 106. 15B E10L +160, 107. 3R O20L + 140, 108. Z O40L +100, 109. 13B T. +100.

110. 1R O VbetW +100, 111. 5R O80W +180. End of sample play. 39 spins & 39 minutes to win $180. This calcs to about $275 bets per hr. x 5 hours & $1,375 & a nice days earnings, maybe x2 if 10 hours could be handled ?

As demonstrated Vbets are a workable & often winning MM tool. Remember IG people used to believe that the earth was flat & if you went too far you'd go over the edge and end up in burning Hell.



shouldn't the red be a win? 15 and 3 - both odd

very nice i must say

what do you do when you bust all 7 steps? (if that happened to you)
and do you after 6L's wait again for virtual win and then bet 7th step?
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

ausguy

Soggett - yes you're correct on bet 107. I'm not suprised I made a mistake as it was late here in OZ & I was getting tired. Putting the bets across the page to save space made it more error prone for me. Error aside I was really demonstating the concept which I think you already realise.

For my live dealer rapid roulette B & M casino plays I use prewritten master bet sheets. I photo copy off these and use the copies in casino play. Mistakes rarely occur in live casino play as the bets run in order down the page. As it is all neatly set out it's easy to manage the required write ups on each bet line & the spin cycle is close to 1 per minute.

To answer your question about bet levels, it usually depends on my profit & loss. If I'm well down & at risk of busting I will not bet L6 & so not L7 as L6 & 7 = about 75% of the progression total. I will then return to L1 & also using Marty is not necessary either. Fibo could be used instead or any progression of your choice & so more levels available obviously.  If a downturn hits well into the play and so I'm able to mostly use the casinos money I'll go for it. Often if things are negative I will take a break for 1/2 an hour or so and return & Vbet the last 20 spins displayed on the Rapid Roulette screen. If positive on Vwins then I will restart betting, usually level 1. I always have a BR of $2k + so always $600+ in reserve

The L3 loss Vbet trigger is my choice. You could make it active at L2 after the 1st loss or move it up the scale to L5 if you wished. I find that L3 is a good balance as a lot of wins come in the  1st 3 bet levels.  Also having the Vbets often works well with Marty as plenty of back to back wins spin up. 1 bet is a Vbet & trigger win & the next bet is the money bet winner. The Vbet comes into it's own on a string of losses that would bust most progressions. I've had 15 & even 20 back to back V losses. Then the trend turns & I've had heaps of wins at L4 or L5. I've even had wins at L6 & L7.

Once I lost on L7 which made a big hole my winning balance after a few hours of betting. Only a couple couple of hundred up actually plus my own starting BR. I then Vbet until a trigger win & then bet $640 + Zero insurance (more on this a little later) that won. This got me back to the 1st L7 balance. Next bet was a L7 again & that won & so netted $10 (the risks we take for a buck ?) recovered all the L1 to L6 losses and allowed a reset to L1. Another 5 bets won, so in total it was 7 straight wins including the L7 Vbet. So far I've never busted over L7, the betting just mentioned is the closest I've come. I rarely see L6 let alone L7.

The  BR Killer comes with  the chops = a string of WLWLWLWL where the Vbet keeps winning $ the money bets lose. I have a counter measure option at L5 (L4 can also be used or even lower) of making it 2 Vbet wins back to back to counter the chop. It mostly comes down to risk vs reward. Only testing & fine tuning the whole method to suit your bet  MO may see you happy ?

For zero insurance I include it in the L4 to L7 bets. I don't use it on L1, L2 or L3 as 10, 20 & 40 & an acceptable risk to lose. The zero bet amount is also added to the progressions at each level. eg  L4 base is $80 & the zero bet is $5 so The new L4 base + is $85 & $5 on zero = $90 outlay. OK, the maths then works like this.
Lose & your $90 poorer. Base bet + wins & the net return is $85 - Z $5 = $80 = x2 L3 bets. If zero drops the net win is $175 -85 + $90 net & $10 bucks extra above base. ( extra2 beers) It then continues up the levels with the appropriate base level increases. A few times it's saved me which is the name of the game.

So to summarise the basic MARTY bet levels L1. $10 L2. $20  L3. $40 L4. $80  L5. $160  L6. $320  L7. $640.
                                                                                                      {........Vbets+ + zero bets..............} 


denzie

Good stuff here. Play it too from time to time. If i see a wlwlwlwl...pattern that's my trigger(as soon that is passed its go time).... im a patience men...when these things come jump on it. Same with a dozen repeat 8times. Then use a 4step marty and bet the opposites.  Things like this work just fine. And if they lose all....then you lost your br for that day. Again. ...patience do the trick for me. Even if your on a winning streak...be happy with some units and then stop till a losing streak comes.... but this things up here do work. Just don't rush it
As spins roll off our predictions get better

bbb128

Quote from: iggiv on Jul 13, 07:53 AM 2013
Ausguy, i don't believe in it. Smart MM is good, it will prevent you from losing your shirt in casinos, but i don't believe it will really let you win a lot on a long run. Anyway, if u compare winning on hot numbers with smart MM and
predicting the outcome somehow from time to time -- there is no comparison. If You can't predict the outcome and just chose hot numbers all the time with smart MM -- you may be lucky and win some and stay in positive territory.
You may be unlucky and lose some (but not too much since you are in control with your smart MM and discipline),
but winning consistently on a long run? No way.

in real life on a long run you will encounter lots of cases of sleeping numbers waking up so much and so often that
you will lose all your winnings with all smart MM you can find. So far you've been lucky and stayed on positive area, but it can't last forever. Roulette won't let you.

Well, that's just my personal opinion. You may agree to disagree on this.

But remember, what you are trying to do, many people over the centuries tried to. Some were lucky to stay positive, some were not. But overall casinos always won. I wish you good luck, hopefully you will keep staying positive.

Thanks iggiv.... i agree with you this is the way to play roulette

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