Bread-Breaker

[thelaw]

What follows is the best strategy that I can find after studying thousands of Roulette systems, all of which failed over the long run.

It consists of two standard parts: Bet Selection and the Progression (w/money management).

Bread-Breaker

Bet Selection :

First off record the spins in real time in rows of 3 each excluding 0/00 :

BRR
BRB
BBB
RRB
BRB
BBR etc.

...now record a S/D (same/different) chart in the same format :

BRR
BRB     SSD
BBB     SDS
RRB     DDS
BRB     DSS
BBR     SDD
BRR     SDS
RRR     DSD

...now we are going to look for singles vs 2+patterns of S/D results (all 2+ will just be written as 2) :

2 (SS)
1 (D)
1 (S)
1 (D)
1 (S)
2 (DD)
1 (S)
1 (D)
2 (SSS)
2 (DD)
1 (S)
1 (D)
1 (S)
1 (D)
1 (S)

...now, we are looking for repeating runs of either singles or doubles, so we start with a virtual win and play through to a loss. Then start over :

2
1
1 (v-win)
1 win
1 win
2 loss
1
1 (v-win)
2 loss
2 (v-win)
1 loss
1 (v-win)
1 win
1 win
1 win

...so our w/l chart look like this :

w
w
l
l
l
w
w
w

Progression :

Simply add your progression of choice (I prefer Fibonacci). You will normally see runs like this :

WLWWWWWLWLLLWWLWLWLWLLWWWWLWL

which are perfect for a Progression where you get 2 losses per win, but use another if you prefer.

As for MM, I have a stop-loss of 30 units which is very conservative.


I've tested this system now on a couple of thousand spins from each and every results-sheet that I have access to, and it hasn't lost yet (not even hitting the 30 unit stop-loss). I've also tried using the EC straight with no charting (as shown above), but it tanks quickly, so the charting is key. There is also no winner via flat betting, although the outcomes are pretty close (WL). Labby will work, but it's just too much writing, as you need to keep track of all 3 EC charts for maximum bets per hour. I'm sure there is a better progression for this, but I haven't found it yet.

On each EC you should expect to make about 10-12 units per hour (30+ if you play all 3). I have a few more tests to run before I put down real money, but I think the bet-selection is solid, and with the right progression, this might be a long-term winner.

All I ask is two favors :

1) If you play this and it wins, then send me 10% (PM me for paypal address)

2) If you play/test and it loses, post your results here

Now, kindly tear this system apart. Thanks! 

[dennisbelle]

1 (S)
1 (S)
1 (S)
1 (S)
1 (S)

Thelaw
I am not clear on this last part you listed above, shouldn't it be
1(S)
1(D)
1(S)
1(D)
1(S)
1(D)
Just want to make sure I understand the process correctly.  Thanks for posting!
Dennis

[thelaw]

1 (S)
1 (S)
1 (S)
1 (S)
1 (S)

Thelaw
I am not clear on this last part you listed above, shouldn't it be
1(S)
1(D)
1(S)
1(D)
1(S)
1(D)
Just want to make sure I understand the process correctly.  Thanks for posting!
Dennis

yes - sorry about that. It should be corrected now.  The last (D) is not listed as we don't know where that series is going; might be a DD for instance.

Thanks for the heads-up!

[ddarko]

ever thought of playing it with 2 out of the 3 Ec's ?

Could give you a chance to get rid of that pesky progression !!!!!

gl

[thelaw]

ever thought of playing it with 2 out of the 3 Ec's ?

Could give you a chance to get rid of that pesky progression !!!!!

gl

Not sure what you mean. Each EC is charted separately. Can you explain?

[dennisbelle]

Were your tests run on a single or double zero wheel spins?

[ddarko]

Not sure what you mean. Each EC is charted separately. Can you explain?

Sure, instead of just betting R/B or O/E or H/L bet 2 of them at the same time.

R/B & O/E or R/B & H/L or O/E & H/L ?

More tracking yes, but if it means flat betting it's worth it !!!!

Hope that explains it better......

[thelaw]

Were your tests run on a single or double zero wheel spins?

Single, but probably doesn't matter.

[thelaw]

Sure, instead of just betting R/B or O/E or H/L bet 2 of them at the same time.

R/B & O/E or R/B & H/L or O/E & H/L ?

More tracking yes, but if it means flat betting it's worth it !!!!

Hope that explains it better......

Each EC is a separate game and playing them together would be too risky for losses (3 losses at the same time for each could be a disaster if bet together). The system above is designed for tracking all 3 EC and playing them as separate games. Flat betting will lose (although very close to even) over the long run, so not sure how it would work for all three??? Am I missing something?

[ddarko]

Each EC is a separate game and playing them together would be too risky for losses (3 losses at the same time for each could be a disaster if bet together). The system above is designed for tracking all 3 EC and playing them as separate games. Flat betting will lose (although very close to even) over the long run, so not sure how it would work for all three??? Am I missing something?

I'm suggesting betting two of the three Ec's should reduce the loses & hopefully still keep the wins at a good rate....

Why not got through you results of all three Ec's & see what happens when betting two of them at same time.

As all three Ec's almost break even, maybe a combination of two of them could give you a win while
flat betting......

gl

[thelaw]

I'm suggesting betting two of the three Ec's should reduce the loses & hopefully still keep the wins at a good rate....

Why not got through you results of all three Ec's & see what happens when betting two of them at same time.

As all three Ec's almost break even, maybe a combination of two of them could give you a win while
flat betting......

gl

I looked at charts from all 3 and found too many close calls as the bets come at different times and together they can spell disaster.

As for flat-betting, I'm looking for something that works long-term, so hit-and-run is out for me.

Again, my approach is super-conservative. so I use all 3 EC as an overall MM buffer for the others.

Thanks for the ideas!

[ddarko]

As for flat-betting, I'm looking for something that works long-term, so hit-and-run is out for me.

I'm a bit confused by this sentence, could you pls tell me what you meant by it ?

Thxs.

[thelaw]

I'm a bit confused by this sentence, could you pls tell me what you meant by it ?

Thxs.

Flat betting fails long-term (already tried it with each EC), but it does end pretty even after about 100 spins, as opposed to regular EC that can swing to 1/3 W/L, so it's very balanced (close to 50/50).

It might be successful in the short-run, but I'm looking for more.

[ddarko]

Flat betting fails long-term (already tried it with each EC), but it does end pretty even after about 100 spins, as opposed to regular EC that can swing to 1/3 W/L, so it's very balanced (close to 50/50).

It might be successful in the short-run, but I'm looking for more.

Right, I see what your getting now thank you.

Interesting you stating it about even after 100 spins, 100 spins is the number I always play/ test for.

I see no point in testing a 300 spins session when I can only sit down for a 100 spin session when I actually play !!!

Short-term to you is long-term to me.....

[dennisbelle]

I ran the first 90 spins in the Zumma roulette tester book and this is my W/L string
WLWLLWWLWWLLLLLWLLWLLWL