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Priyanka

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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 06:58 AM 2015
Priyanka, are you saying that you can gain an advantage just from playing Red and Black alone?
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 07:05 AM 2015
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OK, but in your video you switch between Red, High and single Numbers, so are additional bet selections - besides Red and Black - needed for you to gain that advantage?
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 07:26 AM 2015
OK, but in your video you switch between Red, High and single Numbers, so are additional bet selections - besides Red and Black - needed for you to gain that advantage?
No. ;) The video is to explain different ways of play and playing multiple games within a single game. The game I depict in the video is not necessarily the game am playing. All am saying is by the time I reach the end of this thread, I would hopefully able to explain all the concepts that I use in my play and pulling those concepts together you will be able to figure out a method which will give you an advantage even if playing only red and black. Non-random events is one such concept.
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 08:30 AM 2015
OK, just concentrating on Red and Black I don't see many options for potential advantage with regards to the non-random concept of arithmetic progressions?
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W – 256 times
L – 48 times
LW – 104 times
LL – 32 times
LLW – 36 times
LLL – 16 times
LLLW – 10 times
LLLL – 10 times
This equates to:
50.00%
9.38%
20.31%
6.25%
7.03%
3.13%
1.95%
1.95%

So might we gain some advantage by keeping a tally of each outcome based on the set (1 cycle?) - and change our bet selection based on whatever outcome(s) are trailing behind the above percentages?
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 09:59 AM 2015
How about we change to the following units after each kind of set has finished?

1 unit: W – 256 times
2 units: LW – 104 times
3 units: L – 48 times
4 units: LLW – 36 times
5 units: LL – 32 times
6 units: LLL – 16 times
7 units: LLLW – 10 times
7 units: LLLL – 10 times

So if we lose a set LLLL or LLLW then the next set we bet 7 units?
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 11:48 AM 2015
Falkor - I like the way you are thinking.  :thumbsup:


How about we change to the following units after each kind of set has finished?

So if we lose a set LLLL or LLLW then the next set we bet 7 units?
This again goes into the equation of waiting for LLLL to increase your units so on and so forth. I havnt tried it, but my expectation is you will get into LLLL 3 times or 4 times in a row to wipe your bankroll or gains.


OK, just concentrating on Red and Black I don't see many options for potential advantage with regards to the non-random concept of arithmetic progressions?This equates to:
50.00%
9.38%
20.31%
6.25%
7.03%
3.13%
1.95%
1.95%

So might we gain some advantage by keeping a tally of each outcome based on the set (1 cycle?) - and change our bet selection based on whatever outcome(s) are trailing behind the above percentages?
I would encourage you to think a bit harder. You are again getting into distribution and probability area where things are left to chance. Unless you are able to increase the Win% which is currently standing at 50% in the above set (406 wins and 406 losses), whatever variance based methodology or progression that you use will drive you down. Good luck :thumbsup:
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 12:39 PM 2015
I did have a system once where I kept a running total of Red vs. Black. When one or the other fell 5 or 6 behind I would bet on the opposite colour. And the more virtual losses I waited for before betting, the greater the ratio of wins over losses. I think this is what you guys call "variance"? I called it fluctuation. For whatever reason this system failed (I can't remember why - I think it had something to do with the virtual losses going out of proportion the longer a set continued). If I applied this within the arithmetic progression framework I'm not sure if it would be any different to betting Red/Black normally?

Anymore clues/concepts you can share with us?
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 01:23 PM 2015
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W – 256 times
L – 48 times
LW – 104 times
LL – 32 times
LLW – 36 times
LLL – 16 times
LLLW – 10 times
LLLL – 10 times
How about this: if the Ws are under 50% then bet normal, otherwise wait for 1 virtual loss before betting is commenced on each set?
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 01:24 PM 2015
 What is the point with this topic - i have not learn anything new and i don't think there is any great discovery.
 If it was then you just have to explain it.

 I seen topics like this one before and seen members like this before.
 There is hints and empty claims with no real solution.
 Pretty boring if you ask me.

 Cheers
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AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 01:37 PM 2015
is this going to be a PA topic

What is the point with this topic - i have not learn anything new and i don't think there is any great discovery.
 If it was then you just have to explain it.

 I seen topics like this one before and seen members like this before.
 There is hints and empty claims with no real solution.
 Pretty boring if you ask me.

 Cheers
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 04:04 PM 2015
OK, I reckon we might gain EDGE if we bet on the opposite colour for first bet (if the Ws are greater than 50%)?
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 04:44 PM 2015
OK, I reckon we might gain EDGE if we bet on the opposite colour for first bet (if the Ws are greater than 50%)?
Why only first bet? You are getting there mate.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 06:10 PM 2015
Nottopharmer - Am not able to decide whether Ego wrote what he thought or what he was expecting was a response from me. But at least i can be sure that you were expecting a response from me on "is this going to be a PA topic". Well my answer is NO. It is going to be a Priyanka topic. .


Pretty boring if you ask me.
Ego, Completely  agree  :thumbsup:

If it was then you just have to explain it.
Hmm.. I will have to think about better ways of explaining this. I PMed two members this morning. Told them, I will explain a mechanical system step by step but on one condition. They should be able to understand what i have explained so far in this thread and should be able to play three sets of 9 spins the way i have explained (Offer is not open to everyone, only to two members i have PMed). Unfortunately, both of them couldnt understand what i have explained so far. Which means, I have not been able to explain things properly :). I will try and aspire to explain better. But one thing is for sure, i am not going peel the banana and push it down the mouth.

I am a real fan of the saying - "If you feed a hungry man a fish, you will make his stomach full once. If you teach him how to catch a fish, you will kill his hunger for his lifetime" 

O0 (darko style  :xd:)
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 06:26 PM 2015
hope you publish it pryanka---- if not , you don't lol
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Re: Random Thoughts
Sep 18, 08:05 PM 2015
Why only first bet? You are getting there mate.  :thumbsup:
That was just to start with - I will need to make further calculations for possible 2nd, 3rd and 4th bets.
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