Two dozen method

[mogul397]

Well this is nothing earth shattering. But maybe it's worth someone looking at and
shattering my dream.

I have a method that plays last two dozen from Izak with a labby. In discussions
about it the idea to swap bet choices came up. It seemed to work pretty good a few
months ago when the idea came up.

So.

Play last two dozen with a labby. If you lose once, you switch your bet to the "other" two,
or the 2nd and 3rd to last dozen. Lose again, switch back

I experienced a losing streak of about 8 in a row once. But otherwise losses of even 2 are
rare. So in my testing what I do is stop if I get two losses and wait for a paper win. Then
I continue in the same manner.

I have been doing a lot of testing with this as plainridge casino opened 3 exits up from me
and I can stop there in about 15 min almost any time. So I stop for 15-30 min sessions from
time to time.

They have the real mechanical roulette wheel with a real ball. And my results have bee really good.
My "worst" session was today when I got to 5-5 labby bet. That bet totaled my exposure to 28 units
if I lost. So $150 bank kind of thing.

I am trying to figure if I should play it with certain stop losses. Most of the time getting 10 units
in about 15 min doesn't seem to be a problem.

Food for thought. I'll keep testing.

[SamNL]

Hey Mogul,

Can you explain more about the Labby you're using?

Thank you in advance.

[mogul397]

Here is an example.  Sorry for the columb mis match.
I'll do another example below.

Spin   Number   Dozen   Bet Selection   Bet on Dozen   Bet on Dozen   W/L   Count Wins   Count Losses   Units   Net Units   Run
1   12   1                           
2   4   1                           
3   26   3               0   0   0      0
4   14   2   LTD   1   3   L   0   1   0   0   0
5   29   3   OTD   1   3   W   1   1   0   0   0
6   35   3   OTD   1   2   L   1   2   0   0   0
7   35   3   LTD   2   3   W   2   2   0   0   0
8   12   1   LTD   2   3   L   2   3   0   0   0
9   33   3   OTD   2   3   W   3   3   0   0   0
10   28   3   OTD   1   2   L   3   4   0   0   0
11   34   3   LTD   1   3   W   4   4   0   0   0
12   33   3   LTD   1   3   W   5   4   1   1   1
13   34   3   LTD   1   3   W   1   0   1   2   1
14   26   3   LTD   1   3   W   1   0   1   3   1
15   30   3   LTD   1   3   W   1   0   1   4   1
16   5   1   LTD   1   3   W   1   0   1   5   1
17   36   3   LTD   1   3   W   1   0   1   6   1
18   34   3   LTD   1   3   W   1   0   1   7   1
19   33   3   LTD   1   3   W   1   0   1   8   1
20   13   2   LTD   1   3   L   0   1   0   8   0

Another example.

result   doz     system bet choice      bet dozens   labby       amount bet each doz    result    total

17       2          LTD                       
14       2          LTD
3         1          LTD                          1,2              1             1 on each dozen          win        +1
19       2          LTD                          1,2               1            1 on each dozen          loss        -1
27       3          OTD                         1,2             1,1,1         2 on each dozen          loss        -5
0        ---         LTD                          2,3            WAIT AFTER TWO LOSSES            loss
1         1          OTD                         2,3             WAIT                                          win
30       3          OTD                        1,2           1,1,1,2,2     3 on each dozen          win         -2
11       1          OTD                        2,3           1,1,2           3 on each dozen          win         +1
15

This data taken from page 51 of zumma for this example.  The "results" (win/loss) are the next number on
the next line.

Do you see the labby? And the bet selection? You change election always after a loss. And you stop
betting after 2 consecutive losses and wait for a paper win. And continue. This example illustrates that waiting
too.

The bet value of the labby normally is just that total of the end two on the labby, for one bet.
For 2 dozen there are two dozen that you must bet that amount on. And take that loss.
You can see that result on #27 that loses. You lose 4 units.    2 on each dozen. And pass it
into the labby equation.

Remember. A Labby resolved when you get +1 greater wins in that series or run. And betting 2 dozen
leads you a series where you should be winning 2 out of 3.  Better than 50% on an EC or coin flip.

I find it interesting that there is no interest in this. I have been playing this on paper only at the
casino almost daily and coming out 10 units ahead with little trouble. At some point I am going to
go live. I am almost dismayed at how easy it wins. The labby and a little tap dancing around on bet choices,
with a stop for long losing streaks. I seldom even see 3-4 losses. But it is a stop gap.

Maybe everyone is just winning with it with little discussion.

Or I am just a nobody here.  I'm not danbar asking for $100 for it....

[Tomla021]

tried 60 spins and made 31 units with a dozen labby--probably worth looking at deeper

[Dean]

Thanks for this bet selection,seems solid. I have always enjoyed playing dozens.
I am up +-50 units on dublin but had to go till 11 11 till I had 3 wins to get back to +1
Going to carry on testing and see.

[Dean]

Quick update

I was able to get another +50 units last night but things did get alittle rocky.
I went up to 12 units where i had to win 7 times.
A few wins later and I was faced with the streak from hell,going to a whopping 20 units where I had to win 6 times before I was able to lower bet to 5 units for last win for +1

This morning I was able to make another +30 units, going up to 7-8 units.

Happy Winnings!

[spike]

Using a progression when betting two dozens at once has an expiration date.

[Dean]

Thats true,basically u rely on a dozen not showing 7-10 times to pull u out of the hole

[Dean]

Still going strong.
Tonight I hit max drawdown,was down around 250 units (up to making 22 unit bets) before I went on a winning streak.
Total winnings so far is 190 units.
Anyone else having similiar success?

[Tomla021]

havent played it real but a couple of tests are good

[mogul397]

Still going strong.
Tonight I hit max drawdown,was down around 250 units (up to making 22 unit bets) before I went on a winning streak.
Total winnings so far is 190 units.
Anyone else having similiar success?

Back when I was hot on this, I was going every day.  And it was working like a charm. Of course that is
contingent on what kind of drawdown you're willing to take. I just stopped off about every day
for 1/2 hour and tried to win a run.

Then, for 2-3 days in a row, it got rough. How rough? Well rougher then I was really wanting to play for real.
All my play had been on paper.  The thing is, is that it seemed to do many consecutive days like a charm.
Then I hit like 2-3 bad days in a row. Not something that blows my skirt up.

My idea and hope was that, say, maybe I could win 10 units and lose 30 once in a while. But the consistency
of the bad runs was a problem.  And most often, with gambling, the thing that bothers me is that it
loses it's randomness where you figure it would drop in a loss here or there. Or even two. It's like the
phase of the moon changes. And something different is happening or in charge.

Sounds like you did very well. And I have a $5-$1500 table limit spread. So if I believed enough and went
with enough cash, then it might work. But that wouldn't be fun.

Almost makes you want to look at the dozen picks, with a stronger payout, and see how that makes out.
But I had a really good run before it turned bad, and not sure about it.