A complete street within 12

[tonynewlife]

has anyone tested this system any further?  any feedback will be much appreciated

thank u in advance

tony

[GLC]

has anyone tested this system any further?  any feedback will be much appreciated

thank u in advance

tony

Tony, I don't mean to blow off your question, but testing doesn't help much.  I've tested and tested until I'm blue in the face and guess what, testing hasn't really been that helpful. 


This system works just like Ken says it does.  Most of the time you win sometimes you lose.  Some people won't like the way it plays and others will love it.  Some people may have good enough luck to stay ahead with this system a some may have bad luck and start off losing and give up. 


Ken says he plays this and wins with it.  I've tested it and played it for real money and I have won with it.  The last time I played I lost which left me still ahead so I dropped it from my current systems and am playing with other ideas.


It's not the grail so don't risk more than you can afford to lose.  If you try it and get ahead by a reasonable amount, don't let the casino have it all back.


Good Luck,


GLC

[tonynewlife]

thanks, your input is greatly appreciated.

[RouletteStar]

Dear GLC,

Have you tested according to Mr. J's last post on Dec. 13 , 2011 where he only bets on 1 number in the last 12 spins ?   That was a change from betting all missing street events within 12 spins.

Sincerely,

[GLC]

Dear GLC,

Have you tested according to Mr. J's last post on Dec. 13 , 2011 where he only bets on 1 number in the last 12 spins ?   That was a change from betting all missing street events within 12 spins.

Sincerely,

Star, Here's how I played this system the last few times I played it.  It's a little tweak on MrJ's presentation so I apologize if this confuses anyone.
First, I don't play based on the table layout.  I play based on the wheel layout.  The first thing this means is that you must be playing on a live dealer wheel or an airball machine.  If you're playing RNG, then you might as well play MrJ's system.  The reason I like the wheel method is to take advantage of any bias for hitting the same area repeatedly, or better known as "Dealer Signature".  I don't have enough statistics to prove this, but I feel that my airball machine tends to hit in the same general area within 6 spins more than random would allow. 
Use either single or double zero wheel.  I have to use double zero because that's all we have here. 
I wait until 2 numbers that are 1 space from each other hit within the last 6 spins.  I then bet the number that's between these 2 numbers for 6 times unless I have a hit.

Let's say #'s 18 & 21 have spun in the last 6 numbers.  Number 6 is between them.  I bet on #6 for 6 times unless I win in less than 6.  If a new trigger becomes available while I'm betting on Number 6, let's say numbers 7 & 30 hit, I start betting on number 11 also.  I bet both numbers until I reach the 6th bet on  #6.  Then I drop #6 and continue on with #11.

(When playing wheel based, I'm hoping for repeat hits in the same area of the wheel due to a rhythym by the dealer or the shooting mechanism in an airball machine.  Does such a thing exist?  I think so but it's too controversial to get into here.)
I bet every trigger.  This is very different from MrJ's latest method of only betting 1 number and that being the latest avaiable.

I'm not saying my method is better than his.  It's just another way to play and has worked pretty decent for me.

I flat bet usually.  I have played a Project 202 type progression which has worked well also.  I bet 1 unit for 72 bets.  Any time I reach a new profit, I reset.  If I'm in the hole after 72 bets, I move to 2 units per bet for another 72 bets or until I reach a new profit.  If I hit at 2 units within my 72 bets and I'm not at a new profit, I stay at 2 units for another 72 bets or until I get ahead.  I don't go to 3 units until I have lost 72 bets at 1 unit and 2 units.  I continue adding 1 unit when called for until I reach a new high.  I never drop back when I'm still in the hole, but there's nothing saying you can't if you like that method better.

One thing I like about this method is that you can stop anytime you don't have a bet on the table and pick up at the same place in your progression the next time you go to the casino.

Be forwarned.  There will be some stretches of no hits that will test your resolve.  Test this a few times to get a feel for it before playing for real money.  You set your own buy-in.  I recommend 500 or more for the progression and 100 to 200 for the flat bet.
Hope this makes sense.

GLC

[GLC]

I want to add, if you're playing in a B&M casino with a live dealer and you're in the middle of a series and there's a dealer change, terminate that attack and start over fresh with the new dealer.

For the same reason, if you're playing at an airball machine that does any major changes every now and then, do the same thing.  Reset even if you're down.  You don't have to reset your progression, just the bet selection.

One final thought.  I wouldn't suggest starting off with a progression of any kind with this system.  Flat bet until you're convinced that it works and then a mild progression will enhance your winnings.  Beware!  It will also mean that you need a larger bank to cover the deeper drawdowns.  Risk vs Reward.  More reward, more risk.

GLC

[RouletteStar]

Dear GLC,

Thank you for your response.  I live in Scottsdale , AZ and live about five minutes from two casinos !  There is only Airball in AZ - (no live dealers).  All are 00 - American Wheel.
The Airball machines available in my order of preference are: Organic, Roulette Revolution and Alpha Street. (all air ball - No RNG !).  I have played roulette for many years,
but only played seriously for the last three and a half years.  I am at a break even stage to maybe a little positive.  I am studying Kimo Li's materials and enjoy them but, his methods are work in progress for me, and take a lot of study and patience. I like your suggestions and will certainly try them out, I totally agree on all of your ideas you mentioned in your reply and explanation. I have been reading a lot about of John Legends systems/methods and find them interesting (e.g.:Pattern Breaker), but they are all designed for European -  single zero tables.  Please let me know of anything Interesting that you presently use or are working on.  Also, any Posts of other systems that you think may have merit.
It seems to me that going with random, instead of fighting (Linear) it is the way to go.  I try to read about it as much as possible but, no methods that are really solid so far.
Any ideas or information you can provide would be GREATLY appreciated !!   Best of luck to you !!

RouletteStar AKA (Good Karma)

[mogul397]

I thought this might be easier. I'll post 50 numbers (random.org). I'll be going back 13 numbers. So any 14th number, means NOTHING, that's how I play.

The 9 is the most recent number hit. (00 wheel)

9
17
34
28
22
20
31
21......Our trigger #. We'll be betting on the 19.
5
5
20
33....after the 33 hit (we have the 32), I would be betting on the 31. A win, a few spins later.
0
32
5
13
00
20
11
28
17
25
21......Our trigger #, we have the 19 already. A few spins later, a win (20).
19
26......Our trigger #. We'll be betting on the 25, a win a few spins later.
17
22
2
30
15
27
18
29
29....Our trigger #. We'll be betting on the 30. We do get our win.
12
20
34
28
28
36.....Our trigger #. We'll be betting on the 35. It does NOT hit but we only bet on it for a few spins.
28
22
18....Our trigger #. We'll be betting on the 16.
00
17
25
14
34
12

I don't see the wins indicated in this demonstration.

I see 19.
No 31
I see the 20
I see the 25
No 30
No 16.

And the ones that hit took many spins. I don't get it.

[Colbster]

Bump!

I have been going back to the old forgotten favorites of the past and this one is great.  I have modified the rules a little and am having great results as follows:

Not only can we play for the streets, we can play when we get 3 of the 4 in a dozen/column (ie 13, 16, 19, 22).  If there is a cross of a street and a dozen/column that are both waiting for the same number to hit, I don't double up, I just play the single unit.

I do play this as a bit of a progression and not for the short time period recommended.  The progression is a simple one: Use whatever unit size is necessary to end +1 with any hit.  If you are down 27 units and playing with 5 spaces covered, you can play just 1.  If you have a loss and are down 32, you will bump up to 2 units per space because you wouldn't net enough on a hit to get back in the black. 

A variation of this if you play online with smaller stakes is to use a positive progression that is refigured after each win - If you play with a 216-unit B/R, every time you win, divide your B/R by 216 and use your answer as the new unit size (If you hit once and you have 221 now, move to 1.02 units.  If you only have .05 increments, wait until you are at 227 and move up to 1.05.  Adjust to your own taste.).

Like all systems, each person will find their own preferences and none are right or wrong.  I just wanted this gem back in view.