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Started by Az_MAX, Jan 19, 12:29 PM 2016

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nottophammer

tuddilue last figure is the running total, so when do we stop

spin   #span   doz   doz-doz to bet   +1/-1 *2   Jackpot247 28.1.16   stake   return   total  out   total return   Running total
1   6   1                        
2   15   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   2   3   1
3   3   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   4   6   2
4   15   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   6   9   3
5   3   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   8   12   4
6   24   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   10   15   5
7   9   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   12   18   6
8   29   3   2-3   1   1   2   3   14   21   7
9   31   3   1-2   1   1   2      16   21   5
10   17   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   20   27   7
11   9   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   22   30   8
12   35   3   2-3   1   1   2   3   24   33   9
13   33   3   1-2   1   1   2      26   33   7
14   34   3   1-2   2   2   4      30   33   3
15   23   2   1-2   3   3   6   9   36   42   6
16   16   2   1-3   3   3   6      42   42   0
17   23   2   1-3   4   4   8      50   42   -8
18   1   1   1-3   5   5   10   15   60   57   -3
19   3   1   2-3   5   5   10      70   57   -13
20   18   2   2-3   6   6   12   18   82   75   -7
21   31   3   1-3   6   6   12   18   94   93   -1
22   19   2   1-2   5   5   10   15   104   108   4
23   23   2   1-3   1   1   2      106   108   2
24   32   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   110   114   4
25   22   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   112   117   5
26   30   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   114   120   6
27   22   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   116   123   7
28   26   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   118   126   8
29   35   3   1-2   1   1   2      120   126   6
30   14   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   124   132   8
31   11   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   126   135   9
32   33   3   2-3   1   1   2   3   128   138   10
33   14   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   130   141   11
34   17   2   1-3   1   1   2      132   141   9
35   32   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   136   147   11
36   36   3   1-2   1   1   2      138   147   9
37   16   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   142   153   11
38   18   2   1-3   1   1   2      144   153   9
39   25   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   148   159   11
40   12   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   150   162   12
41   21   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   152   165   13
42   22   2   1-3   1   1   2      154   165   11
43   34   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   158   171   13
44   35   3   1-2   1   1   2      160   171   11
45   24   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   164   177   13
46   17   2   1-3   1   1   2      166   177   11
47   4   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   170   183   13
48   0   0   2-3   1   1   2      172   183   11
49   8   1   0               172   183   11
50   6   1   2-3   2   2   4      176   183   7
51   4   1   2-3   3   3   6      182   183   1
52   7   1   2-3   4   4   8      190   183   -7
53   10   1   2-3   5   5   10      200   183   -17
54   17   2   2-3   6   6   12   18   212   201   -11
55   3   1   1-3   6   6   12   18   224   219   -5
56   24   2   2-3   5   5   10   15   234   234   0
57   3   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   236   237   1
58   5   1   2-3   1   1   2      238   237   -1
59   34   3   2-3   2   2   4   6   242   243   1
60   34   3   1-2   1   1   2      244   243   -1
                        244   243   -1
61   14   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   248   249   1
62   32   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   250   252   2
63   2   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   252   255   3
64   4   1   2-3   1   1   2      254   255   1
65   29   3   2-3   2   2   4   6   258   261   3
66   32   3   1-2   1   1   2      260   261   1
67   11   1   1-2   2   2   4   6   264   267   3
68   23   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   266   270   4
69   12   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   268   273   5
70   12   1   2-3   1   1   2      270   273   3
71   22   2   2-3   2   2   4   6   274   279   5
72   18   2   1-3   1   1   2      276   279   3
73   6   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   280   285   5
74   4   1   2-3   1   1   2      282   285   3
75   27   3   2-3   2   2   4   6   286   291   5
76   32   3   1-2   1   1   2      288   291   3
77   32   3   1-2   2   2   4      292   291   -1
78   16   2   1-2   3   3   6   9   298   300   2
79   22   2   1-3   1   1   2      300   300   0
80   7   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   304   306   2
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

tuddilue

Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 28, 01:41 PM 2016
tuddilue last figure is the running total, so when do we stop

spin   #span   doz   doz-doz to bet   +1/-1 *2   Jackpot247 28.1.16   stake   return   total  out   total return   Running total
1   6   1                        
2   15   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   2   3   1
3   3   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   4   6   2
4   15   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   6   9   3
5   3   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   8   12   4
6   24   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   10   15   5
7   9   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   12   18   6
8   29   3   2-3   1   1   2   3   14   21   7
9   31   3   1-2   1   1   2      16   21   5
10   17   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   20   27   7
11   9   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   22   30   8
12   35   3   2-3   1   1   2   3   24   33   9
13   33   3   1-2   1   1   2      26   33   7
14   34   3   1-2   2   2   4      30   33   3
15   23   2   1-2   3   3   6   9   36   42   6
16   16   2   1-3   3   3   6      42   42   0
17   23   2   1-3   4   4   8      50   42   -8
18   1   1   1-3   5   5   10   15   60   57   -3
19   3   1   2-3   5   5   10      70   57   -13
20   18   2   2-3   6   6   12   18   82   75   -7
21   31   3   1-3   6   6   12   18   94   93   -1
22   19   2   1-2   5   5   10   15   104   108   4
23   23   2   1-3   1   1   2      106   108   2
24   32   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   110   114   4
25   22   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   112   117   5
26   30   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   114   120   6
27   22   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   116   123   7
28   26   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   118   126   8
29   35   3   1-2   1   1   2      120   126   6
30   14   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   124   132   8
31   11   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   126   135   9
32   33   3   2-3   1   1   2   3   128   138   10
33   14   2   1-2   1   1   2   3   130   141   11
34   17   2   1-3   1   1   2      132   141   9
35   32   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   136   147   11
36   36   3   1-2   1   1   2      138   147   9
37   16   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   142   153   11
38   18   2   1-3   1   1   2      144   153   9
39   25   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   148   159   11
40   12   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   150   162   12
41   21   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   152   165   13
42   22   2   1-3   1   1   2      154   165   11
43   34   3   1-3   2   2   4   6   158   171   13
44   35   3   1-2   1   1   2      160   171   11
45   24   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   164   177   13
46   17   2   1-3   1   1   2      166   177   11
47   4   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   170   183   13
48   0   0   2-3   1   1   2      172   183   11
49   8   1   0               172   183   11
50   6   1   2-3   2   2   4      176   183   7
51   4   1   2-3   3   3   6      182   183   1
52   7   1   2-3   4   4   8      190   183   -7
53   10   1   2-3   5   5   10      200   183   -17
54   17   2   2-3   6   6   12   18   212   201   -11
55   3   1   1-3   6   6   12   18   224   219   -5
56   24   2   2-3   5   5   10   15   234   234   0
57   3   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   236   237   1
58   5   1   2-3   1   1   2      238   237   -1
59   34   3   2-3   2   2   4   6   242   243   1
60   34   3   1-2   1   1   2      244   243   -1
                        244   243   -1
61   14   2   1-2   2   2   4   6   248   249   1
62   32   3   1-3   1   1   2   3   250   252   2
63   2   1   1-2   1   1   2   3   252   255   3
64   4   1   2-3   1   1   2      254   255   1
65   29   3   2-3   2   2   4   6   258   261   3
66   32   3   1-2   1   1   2      260   261   1
67   11   1   1-2   2   2   4   6   264   267   3
68   23   2   2-3   1   1   2   3   266   270   4
69   12   1   1-3   1   1   2   3   268   273   5
70   12   1   2-3   1   1   2      270   273   3
71   22   2   2-3   2   2   4   6   274   279   5
72   18   2   1-3   1   1   2      276   279   3
73   6   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   280   285   5
74   4   1   2-3   1   1   2      282   285   3
75   27   3   2-3   2   2   4   6   286   291   5
76   32   3   1-2   1   1   2      288   291   3
77   32   3   1-2   2   2   4      292   291   -1
78   16   2   1-2   3   3   6   9   298   300   2
79   22   2   1-3   1   1   2      300   300   0
80   7   1   1-3   2   2   4   6   304   306   2
I should have stopped when I was +10. In that case row 32 if I reading it correctly.

Otherwise you have a high on +13. But it is always hard to prick that.

Really funny to see it recovers well. That is the same feeling for me.

What are you using for logging program?

nottophammer

Afternoon  tuddilue
Yeah what amazes me is the win unit gets to a certain plus, then goes down, then makes the come back, this can happen a couple of times, but the more you go on the more chance of taking longer to recover or even if it can recoverwith the br one has, of the tests i've done even when going plus 160 spins it eventually came back,so you should have learnt to taken a win, other wise its another grind coming.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

celescliff

If you don't mind, could you post your results between code tags, notto? Your columns would be more properly alligned and easier to read.  :thumbsup:

nottophammer

you'll have to explain as i 'm usless with all this computer stuff, are the code tags above
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

celescliff

Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 29, 10:10 AM 2016
you'll have to explain as i 'm usless with all this computer stuff, are the code tags above

My guess is that you track your result in excel, correct?

Let's take your first five spins for example:


I didn't include everything since this is just an example. There's is a button that has a sharp-icon (#) so what you do is copy the text you want to share from excel and paste
it in notepad. From there you just copy the text from notepad, press the #-icon and put the text between the tags:

[.code] (without the dot)
paste text here
[./code] (without the dot)

Result:


spin #span doz doz-doz to bet
1 6 1
2 15 2 2-3
3 1 1 1-3
4 2 1 2-3
5 1 1 1-3



nottophammer

i'll have a go some time. Thanks
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Is this what you mean
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 *2 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 6 1
2 15 2 2-3 1 1 2 3 2 3 1
3 3 1 1-3 1 1 2 3 4 6 2
4 15 2 2-3 1 1 2 3 6 9 3
5 3 1 1-3 1 1 2 3 8 12 4
6 24 2 2-3 1 1 2 3 10 15 5
7 9 1 1-3 1 1 2 3 12 18 6
8 29 3 2-3 1 1 2 3 14 21 7
9 31 3 1-2 1 1 2 16 21 5
10 17 2 1-2 2 2 4 6 20 27 7
11 9 1 1-3 1 1 2 3 22 30 8
12 35 3 2-3 1 1 2 3 24 33 9
13 33 3 1-2 1 1 2 26 33 7
14 34 3 1-2 2 2 4 30 33 3
15 23 2 1-2 3 3 6 9 36 42 6
16 16 2 1-3 3 3 6 42 42 0
17 23 2 1-3 4 4 8 50 42 -8
18 1 1 1-3 5 5 10 15 60 57 -3
19 3 1 2-3 5 5 10 70 57 -13
20 18 2 2-3 6 6 12 18 82 75 -7
21 31 3 1-3 6 6 12 18 94 93 -1
22 19 2 1-2 5 5 10 15 104 108 4
23 23 2 1-3 1 1 2 106 108 2
24 32 3 1-3 2 2 4 6 110 114 4
25 22 2 1-2 1 1 2 3 112 117 5
26 30 3 1-3 1 1 2 3 114 120 6
27 22 2 1-2 1 1 2 3 116 123 7
28 26 3 1-3 1 1 2 3 118 126 8
29 35 3 1-2 1 1 2 120 126 6
30 14 2 1-2 2 2 4 6 124 132 8
31 11 1 1-3 1 1 2 3 126 135 9
32 33 3 2-3 1 1 2 3 128 138 10
33 14 2 1-2 1 1 2 3 130 141 11
34 17 2 1-3 1 1 2 132 141 9
35 32 3 1-3 2 2 4 6 136 147 11
36 36 3 1-2 1 1 2 138 147 9
37 16 2 1-2 2 2 4 6 142 153 11
38 18 2 1-3 1 1 2 144 153 9
39 25 3 1-3 2 2 4 6 148 159 11
40 12 1 1-2 1 1 2 3 150 162 12
41 21 2 2-3 1 1 2 3 152 165 13
42 22 2 1-3 1 1 2 154 165 11
43 34 3 1-3 2 2 4 6 158 171 13
44 35 3 1-2 1 1 2 160 171 11
45 24 2 1-2 2 2 4 6 164 177 13
46 17 2 1-3 1 1 2 166 177 11
47 4 1 1-3 2 2 4 6 170 183 13
48 0 0 2-3 1 1 2 172 183 11
49 8 1 0 172 183 11
50 6 1 2-3 2 2 4 176 183 7
51 4 1 2-3 3 3 6 182 183 1
52 7 1 2-3 4 4 8 190 183 -7
53 10 1 2-3 5 5 10 200 183 -17
54 17 2 2-3 6 6 12 18 212 201 -11
55 3 1 1-3 6 6 12 18 224 219 -5
56 24 2 2-3 5 5 10 15 234 234 0
57 3 1 1-3 1 1 2 3 236 237 1
58 5 1 2-3 1 1 2 238 237 -1
59 34 3 2-3 2 2 4 6 242 243 1
60 34 3 1-2 1 1 2 244 243 -1
244 243 -1
61 14 2 1-2 2 2 4 6 248 249 1
62 32 3 1-3 1 1 2 3 250 252 2
63 2 1 1-2 1 1 2 3 252 255 3
64 4 1 2-3 1 1 2 254 255 1
65 29 3 2-3 2 2 4 6 258 261 3
66 32 3 1-2 1 1 2 260 261 1
67 11 1 1-2 2 2 4 6 264 267 3
68 23 2 2-3 1 1 2 3 266 270 4
69 12 1 1-3 1 1 2 3 268 273 5
70 12 1 2-3 1 1 2 270 273 3
71 22 2 2-3 2 2 4 6 274 279 5
72 18 2 1-3 1 1 2 276 279 3
73 6 1 1-3 2 2 4 6 280 285 5
74 4 1 2-3 1 1 2 282 285 3
75 27 3 2-3 2 2 4 6 286 291 5
76 32 3 1-2 1 1 2 288 291 3
77 32 3 1-2 2 2 4 292 291 -1
78 16 2 1-2 3 3 6 9 298 300 2
79 22 2 1-3 1 1 2 300 300 0
80 7 1 1-3 2 2 4 6 304 306 2
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

celescliff


Az_MAX

Yesterday's spins:


D1 D2 D3
7 9 14
6 18 27
4 19 10
27 29 13
18 23 22
26 20 32
31 33 5
20 5 15
25 31 34
23 36 28
9 20 17
21 12 3
21 13 28
22 7 18
28 33 22
4 5 26
18 28 2
8 16 1
36 33 5
9 14 3
22 0 24
26 34 35
35 21 24
21 18 5
36 7 0
22 24 20
29 1 4
12 21 15
0 0 21
1 8 22
29 18 11
19 31 2
4 26 4
33 26 7
23 4 14


Total Net +18
Good guys only win in roulette

nottophammer

Jackpot 24/7   29.1.16   betting double dozen
spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 9 1
2 24 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 35 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 4 6 2
4 22 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 6 9 3
5 26 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 8 12 4
6 21 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 10 15 5
7 10 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 12 18 6
8 29 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 14 21 7
9 8 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 16 24 8
10 31 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 18 27 9
11 29 3 1-2 1-1 2 20 27 7
12 26 3 1-2 2-2 4 24 27 3
13 1 1 1-2 3-3 6 9 30 36 6
14 24 2 2-3 3-3 6 9 36 45 9
15 17 2 1-3 1-1 2 38 45 7
16 34 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 42 51 9
17 32 3 1-2 1-1 2 44 51 7
18 22 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 48 57 9
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mogul397

So I went to the sidelines to see where this was going, and just caught up.

I posted a zumma test and it made 9 units profit. I suppose I was slipping into the expectation that
that would be the norm.

So I grabbed pg 199 and 200. Both broke even. Then 101. That gave me, like, 13 wins and 12 losses.
Which I suppose puts you -12 units flat bet.

That's where flat bet testing got me. So I'm reconsidering and going to try working this progression
and see what happens. Obviously the even pages will profit, and the question, as always, is
where will the tough page go?  Beyond that is always the question of maintaining capital and not
losing.


Any comments or observations welcome. But I was an advocate of this method for a while, and it
could just be that I was expecting too much from it.

Thanks
NOBODY knows what you THINK they know

RouletteGhost

Quote from: mogul397 on Jan 29, 04:38 PM 2016
So I went to the sidelines to see where this was going, and just caught up.

I posted a zumma test and it made 9 units profit. I suppose I was slipping into the expectation that
that would be the norm.

So I grabbed pg 199 and 200. Both broke even. Then 101. That gave me, like, 13 wins and 12 losses.
Which I suppose puts you -12 units flat bet.

That's where flat bet testing got me. So I'm reconsidering and going to try working this progression
and see what happens. Obviously the even pages will profit, and the question, as always, is
where will the tough page go?  Beyond that is always the question of maintaining capital and not
losing.


Any comments or observations welcome. But I was an advocate of this method for a while, and it
could just be that I was expecting too much from it.

Thanks

Judging by your comments in grassroots and here in this thread it seems to me you are looking for a method that never loses....

Boy are you in for dissapointment

They will ALL lose at times

Limit the loss and stop. The future wins will compensate

If you play 5 sessions a week 2 might be losers. Up to you how big the loss

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

mogul397

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 29, 05:51 PM 2016
Judging by your comments in grassroots and here in this thread it seems to me you are looking for a method that never loses....

Boy are you in for dissapointment

They will ALL lose at times

Limit the loss and stop. The future wins will compensate

If you play 5 sessions a week 2 might be losers. Up to you how big the loss

RG, whenever you examine a method that you want to embrace, it is like the "WWW" with so many variables
all over the place.

Am I looking for a method where I can bet $10K each spin, stay even, and after several hours
turn on unit profit? OR am I ready to risk that $10K playing a martingale to win $5/ spin and make
a profit like that?

A lot of swing, and plus neg from the flatbet, and the occasional catastrophic loss that you are always
happy you avoided.

From there the walls close in.

Am I looking for something that never wins?  What could the answer POSSIBLY be?
Yes.

You are too. (Now look in the mirror).

The thing that I have going, I suppose is that I always am playing on paper. So when things
go good or bad, and things fall apart, it hurts. But it's all a computer game.

When I walk through here with my hand raised with a conclusive, "this is the one I like and can
win with".

Having said that, with this particular method in question, there has been no safety net for loss.
No discussion of it. In a weird and good way, everyone seems to be playing, winning, and posting
actual play lists, with no talk or concern about "near misses", or even to define what a near miss is.

One final thought about your comment.  With all the successful team work and good energy going on here,
it makes me wonder what the point of this post could be.

I don't think we need an philosophical narratives about peoples intentions and such. This, right now, is the
core of a group of deluded people working happily together on something, looks like. And the post that
you just made smells like an attempt to turn it into another 100 pages of shit.

:girl_to: :girl_to: :girl_to: :girl_to:I'll go back to working with the system and talking with the people who post about it. And making comments
about what I think of their results or how to change them. Not what I think their hopes, dreams, or delutions are.

NOBODY knows what you THINK they know

RouletteGhost

Finding a page in zumma that loses doesnt mean the method is a loser

Deal with the loss by limiting the loss

Az_MAXX is doing fantastic with that

A near miss? Or a miss? Win next session

Not trying to hit a crazy bashing path with you mogul

The point im making is you say you went to this page in zumma and saw a loss.  Ok. You will. On any method always you wil see that.

In 123 thread u akso wold cite pages that saw a loss. I can do it to.

When az maxx sees a loss it doesnt hurt him he changes up the bet a tad bit and goes on.  Spending time looking for a loss in zumma : counterproductive
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

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