KTF

[nottophammer]

Just to please Mako and co

Random.org, 1st 3; sets of 148 spins from yesterday.

Trot placed for the blind

[nottophammer]

These to need to be done.

[Mako]

I like the trot being displayed for those of us who aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer...

[nottophammer]

So study these spins you might be able to do well on MPR as Steve said will get #'s from Random.org.

Mako 123 sets of 148 spins, should have got 185, but you can see how many times all starting 37 have gone before spin 148

[Mako]

So study these spins you might be able to do well on MPR as Steve said will get #'s from Random.org.

Mako 123 sets of 148 spins, should have got 185, but you can see how many times all starting 37 have gone before spin 148

Surprising to me because I would have thought you'd get at least one, if not 2+, sleepers that would exceed 148 spins without a doubt, every single time.   

[Mako]

"KTF Lite" session: Started at 39th spin, 14 unhit numbers remaining. Began a 1u standard progression on all of them, took 105 spins to clear the board.

The worst miss streak actually occurred with 12 numbers remaining right at the start, remainder was drama-free.

[Mako]

I tried it, taking first profit with a larger unit size, but keeping the original rules of a 400 unit bank.  I play until 1st profit, but I keep spinning until all 37 numbers have shown before I start a new session.  Usually around 120-150 spins.  Have not lost a single session, or had a larger drawn down than 220 units in 77 sessions. 

After fooling around today with a variety of different progressions, start points, end points, etc, this has wound up being the best way to play (super small sample of course).

Slightly higher unit size takes courage early, but the probability is in your favor at that point.   Thanks for all the work in this thread notto, enjoying the method so far.

[nottophammer]

Mako
I’ve been collecting these #’s for 909 days. They are airball and come from jackpot247.com:
On day one I told the forum where the #’s were coming from, so members could record the show and verify the #’s, but no one ever confirms them.
What am I after? Too know the average for the staring, 37 unique.
Now before the hated green tester appeared, it was done manually, so slow process.
But data collected the same way on rng bookies roulette, shows comparable information, 15 of the remaining non-hit, show in spins 11-40:
So with the 15 non-hit in spins 11-40 for rng, would it be the same on the airball spins, J247.com; answer yes.
Well with two sources showing 15 non-hit shows in spins 11-40, where else could we look? Answer from  one of the forum’s experts, the general, Random.org, I now started collecting 148 spins, 4 cycles of 37, but should have gone for 185 #’s; as you have seen that all 37 have hit on numerous occasions within the 148 #’s; so would 185 #’s confirm this theory of 1 # miss for hundreds of spins.
There are 128 sets of 148 numbers/spins so far, of which all the starting 37 have hit in 64 of the 128 sets, with a known maximum of 72 spins; so would 185 numbers show all 37 have hit?
Again data for Random.org is showing 15 of the remaining non-hit, hit in spins 11-40; 3 different sources.
So here are today’s #’s from J247.com; the show aired for 174 minutes producing 85 spins.
As just a string could you say how many of the starting 37 have hit? So old school way is to collect the spins on the paper sheet in blocks of 10’s. The sheet shows what the green tester shows, you can see how many non-hit in each group, just like the tester that Priyanka gave free.


So collecting this way you can see Vaddi idea, a miss in the 1st 10; you can see how Turbo could have seen the repeat idea, but what does GUT tell you, the larger group is favourable 0X’s v 1X’s; say spins 21-30 0X’s v 1X+>1x; all these methods you could get from collecting in groups of 10 spins.
So do you know the non-hit averages? You can see on the sheet both groups 11-20 give the average of 7 non-hit +2 on the expected 5;

[RouletteGhost]

Glad to hear that nimo...

Do you start after 10 spins?

[Mako]

Notto, yes, with the total picture available from all of the data you've worked hard to collect it's relatively easy to see when probability is either ahead, or behind, the curve for repeaters or no-hits within each 10-block. 

And even just running a couple dozen tests yesterday I could see it happen in real time, each instance of say zero repeaters in the first 10 spins led to increased repeater occurrence in the next 10 (every single time) and vice-versa...to the point where if 3-4 repeaters had shown up in that first 10 block you could have bet the house progressively on no-hits to arrive in bulk immediately after.

It's simple to implement, my only question is one you've surely asked of the data yourself...with all of your lengthy runs, if you take KTF to say 3 remaining no-hits left on the board...approximately 85-110 spins, you've only busted out 3 times out of 275...which would mean total losses would be around $12k, meanwhile total wins would be a 10-20x multiple of that $12k...

Obviously you'd hit betting spread limits for the most part, couldn't do it via airball or rng machines, would require table play in a flexible house...but let's say you have that available just for kicks. 

What does your data show if you had taken it to that limit, 3 no-hits remaining (I chose 3 no-hits left for time reasons...more efficient to not chase the remainders for 50+ spins at a slow wheel and just start a new session I'd guess), unlimited BR, unlimited table spread.  I'm curious because your data is immense, lets put some new scenarios to it and see how it holds up. 

[RouletteGhost]

Question for nimo

Are you playing on rng or airball? Because you can’t lay this many chips on live dealer

Anyone playing ktf on airball?

[RouletteGhost]

Say you have 10 uniques in 10
Spins

You have to place 26 chips. Not saying it doesn’t work just saying how is that possible

[Mako]

Say you have 10 uniques in 10
Spins

You have to place 26 chips. Not saying it doesn’t work just saying how is that possible

notto is on airball/rng terminals RG, not sure how Nimo did his.  Nimo has moved on though, he now claims to be making a killing with Turbo's repeater/progressive method, doubt you'll get his answer.

Definitely wouldn't want to try it on a live table though, the dealer would roll his eyes right out of their sockets and onto the floor...

The good thing though is all of notto's data is based basically on rng at the worst, so it's not a question of wheel zones or sectors determining the outcome...just raw probability and hopefully not running into low probability outcomes too often in a row.

[nottophammer]

Now you think it's hard to play live, now Steve this is to show it can be done on MPR with 30 seconds to lay 28 units. Just like the B+M use touchscreen we are in the modern world not like MR J; just press re-bet.



See 5304 well had not been on for a while tonight had 2 games last game above

[nottophammer]

Done some more today, dont the average to hit say 2 spins up to 19th non-hit look above