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Blue Angel's HG (Fallacious)

Started by thelaw, Feb 23, 09:17 PM 2016

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RouletteGhost

Which kav bet are we talking about
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

Quote from: Blue_Angel on Mar 02, 05:06 PM 2016
Each session has its unique record, this means that from the beginning of every session till its end you keep on writing the total appearances for each and every EC, not only per 37 cycle but for the whole duration of every session.

Since you want to test for a large number of outcomes you should maintain a continuous count of all 6 EC's on your record which should be updated after each spin/decision.
The proper way to see it is as a constant work in progress which the selection adjusts according to the ever changing results.

There are some cases where you have a tie between 2 EC's and also both of them have appeared on the last spin/result, in this case bet the opposite EC from the one which have more hits and its last appearance was more recent.

Get your "ignore face" on cause you are going to have to do a lot of that soon
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RayManZ

What is a session? When does it ends? You talk about sessions but not when it ends.

If i do 1 mil. Spins is that one session?

Blue_Angel

Check the attachment to get the complete picture of my method in action.

Tamino

A martingale method. Nothing special SOS.

Blue_Angel

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 02, 05:13 PM 2016
Which kav bet are we talking about

Nevermind, just forget that I mentioned it, we should not derail this topic by injecting irrelevant and insignificant information.

Let's focus all together to the job at hand and try to improve it if possible for our mutual interest!
Let's be team players for a change instead of trolling around!

We had enough of negativity so far, we need no more of it!
What I'm showing you is completely transparent, no strings attached, no hidden catch because I'm not expecting you to buy!

If all these quite obvious facts are still insufficient for you, then nothing could ever convince you and you would be on your own!

Steve

Blueangel, firstly welcome to the forum. Its good if you are openly sharing your system, but I notice in your signature you are also selling systems. Is it the same system you're giving away, or something else?

When you share any system, it is going to be scrutinized.

The operating principle of your bet selection is to follow cold ECs. But that doesnt at all increase the accuracy of predictions. So the odds of red or black have the same chance of spinning, whether they are currently hot or cold. And the idea of covering multiple ECs wont work either, because all you'd be doing is making a group of independent bets.

What your system does is uses a milder progression with a small profit target being anything greater than the starting bankroll. So it will probably last longer than most systems, but the end result would still be the same.

QuoteReyth became moderator and after start testing or should I say promoting Kav bet. Simply making Reyth moderator was part of their deal, also Kavouras enticed him by promising Reyth a slice from each sale.

Thanks for clearing that up. Its hard to know what to believe in any case. There's so much inaccurate information about everything on the internet. But Im sure by now Reyth would know the Kav bet doesnt work. But thats another story for another thread.

QuoteYou cannot say lucky when we are talking about millions of results, it's absurd.

Systems can be built around set spins. Have you tested it over a separate group of 1M spins? And I assumed you had the system coded in RX already, otherwise how was it tested? Or wasnt it you that did the testing? I mean you have tested it in RX with profit over 1M spins, so who has the RX file? If it was coded in RX, maybe incorrect parameters were used, like testing with no zero roulette.

QuoteSo if you really believe so you don't have to afraid of losing hundred k by testing it for 1 more million spins, right??

I wouldnt be losing $100k. Id be gaining a killer system that would be broadly applied. To clear any confusion, the challenge states first test the 2M spins from roulettetraining.com. Lock the system in a file so it cant be changed. Then I'll supply a further set of 2M spins for you to test again. And if there is a profit over the spins, then we proceed to the next steps. The terms have been as such for about a year as shown on archive sites.

But 1M spins IS generally enough to test a system, unless the spins are not proper random, or the system is reverse engineered around spins. The exception is say you had a progression like:
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128 (martingale), then your average bet size for spins 1 to 900,000 were 10 units, and your average bet size for spins 900,001 - 1,000,000 were 50 units. Now say you had normal expected losses in the first 900,000 spins, and lost a lot. But then in the final 100k spins, you had good luck and with the larger bets. Then what you have in the end is:

a. Normal luck when betting low
b. Very good luck when betting high

The result is you profit, but not from a good system. It was from luck.

Also some players have attempted the challenge with a system they say wins over millions of spins. But the system's trigger may allow betting on about 1% of spins. So instead of say 100,000 spins, they bet on 1,000 spins which is still short term.

Anyway I'd still be very surprised your the system won over 1M even with luck. I've tested principles like what your system works on many times, as have many others, and it doesnt work. There is no increase in accuracy with the bet selection method, so no betting progression will help. Every spin is independent, and all the martingale does is control the rate at which you either win or lose, depending on your luck. For now we can wait for it to be coded in RX to do more testing. But again who did the testing with RX? So it is already coded by someone right?
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Blue_Angel

Quote from: RayManZ on Mar 02, 05:17 PM 2016
What is a session? When does it ends? You talk about sessions but not when it ends.

If i do 1 mil. Spins is that one session?

Actually when I'm playing on BM casinos I don't know before hand how long will my session, neither how many units I'm going to gain.

All I know is that by the end of my session I will leave the casino with more money than when entered it.

There are no fixed number of spins to be played, nor fixed amount of units to be won per session.

In case someone wants to test it for 1 million spins he/she should consider the total as 1 session, but I think it doesn't reflect reality precisely.

Blue_Angel

Quote from: Steve on Mar 02, 05:33 PM 2016
Blueangel, firstly welcome to the forum. Its good if you are openly sharing your system, but I notice in your signature you are also selling systems. Is it the same system you're giving away, or something else?

When you share any system, it is going to be scrutinized.

The operating principle of your bet selection is to follow cold ECs. But that doesnt at all increase the accuracy of predictions. So the odds of red or black have the same chance of spinning, whether they are currently hot or cold. And the idea of covering multiple ECs wont work either, because all you'd be doing is making a group of independent bets.

What your system does is uses a milder progression with a small profit target being anything greater than the starting bankroll. So it will probably last longer than most systems, but the end result would still be the same.

Thanks for clearing that up. Its hard to know what to believe in any case. There's so much inaccurate information about everything on the internet. But Im sure by now Reyth would know the Kav bet doesnt work. But thats another story for another thread.

Systems can be built around set spins. Have you tested it over a separate group of 1M spins? And I assumed you had the system coded in RX already, otherwise how was it tested? Or wasnt it you that did the testing? I mean you have tested it in RX with profit over 1M spins, so who has the RX file? If it was coded in RX, maybe incorrect parameters were used, like testing with no zero roulette.

I wouldnt be losing $100k. Id be gaining a killer system that would be broadly applied. To clear any confusion, the challenge states first test the 2M spins from roulettetraining.com. Lock the system in a file so it cant be changed. Then I'll supply a further set of 2M spins for you to test again. And if there is a profit over the spins, then we proceed to the next steps. The terms have been as such for about a year as shown on archive sites.

But 1M spins IS generally enough to test a system, unless the spins are not proper random, or the system is reverse engineered around spins. The exception is say you had a progression like:
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128 (martingale), then your average bet size for spins 1 to 900,000 were 10 units, and your average bet size for spins 900,001 - 1,000,000 were 50 units. Now say you had normal expected losses in the first 900,000 spins, and lost a lot. But then in the final 100k spins, you had good luck and with the larger bets. Then what you have in the end is:

a. Normal luck when betting low
b. Very good luck when betting high

The result is you profit, but not from a good system. It was from luck.

Also some players have attempted the challenge with a system they say wins over millions of spins. But the system's trigger may allow betting on about 1% of spins. So instead of say 100,000 spins, they bet on 1,000 spins which is still short term.

Anyway I'd still be very surprised your the system won over 1M even with luck. I've tested principles like what your system works on many times, as have many others, and it doesnt work. There is no increase in accuracy with the bet selection method, so no betting progression will help. Every spin is independent, and all the martingale does is control the rate at which you either win or lose, depending on your luck. For now we can wait for it to be coded in RX to do more testing. But again who did the testing with RX? So it is already coded by someone right?

In my signature there is a reference about my old system (2010), thus irrelevant with FHG.

Once again, many users have tried to find a worse sequence than the one of the example I've posted on this topic but they didn't find anything worse among LITERALLY millions of results.

I'm talking about millions of simulated results, including also the WHOLE archive of Wiesbaden casino.

I know only Wiesbaden brick and mortar casino which publishes all of its results, from all of its tables each and every day!
Therefore those results are available for EVERYONE to check!

All these people just confirmed that there was NEVER worst 200 spins sequence, they were not trying my method.
Therefore it was like an open challenge for anyone who can come out alive after such session from hell and I took the opportunity NOT ONLY to gain a profit out of such nightmare, BUT TO DO IT WITH THE LEAST POSSIBLE BANKROLL AND MAX BET!

I'm applying my method everyday on online casino, I'm also playing with a friend at my local BM casino, we joined bankrolls  in order to win more and split the profits.

The General

Blue Angel,

Why do you believe that your delayed Martingale is different from the regular Martingale?

Why should the results differ at all?

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
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RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Mar 02, 06:06 PM 2016
Blue Angel,

Why do you believe that your delayed Martingale is different from the regular Martingale?

Why should the results differ at all?

id say 1,000,000 spins is good enough
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Blue_Angel

Quote from: Tamino on Mar 02, 05:27 PM 2016
A martingale method. Nothing special SOS.

You see the glass half empty when there is another half which is...flat bets.

From my perspective it's not Martingale, neither flat betting, it's a hybrid progression.

If we focus solely on the progression we would miss the wider picture...

The General

QuoteYou see the glass half empty when there is another half which is...flat bets.

From my perspective it's not Martingale, neither flat betting, it's a hybrid progression.

If we focus solely on the progression we would miss the wider picture...



I don't care how much is in your glass.  To date, there's never been such a thing as winning roulette system that relies on an up as you lose progression.


Quoteid say 1,000,000 spins is good enough

I doubt that it would even last 10k placed bets.  Even it was positive the amount won would be paltry, indicating that it was merely luck.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Mar 02, 06:12 PM 2016


I don't care how much is in your glass.  To date, there's never been such a thing as winning roulette system that relies on an up as you lose progression.

that just is not true. with proper bankroll
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

@thegeneral

if you call 1,000,000 spins just luck as you just did then damnit where can i find that luck
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

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