Even Stevens

[RouletteGhost]

ok carry on---enjoy

the +1 is achieved quick on his method

[Willie]

roulette ghost i think you only go for 1 win as willy originally had it

I never said +1 tomla 
I mentioned +50 with 10 units as base..

[Willie]

Compliments of Wiggy

Win Loss Registry

longest loss in a row was 5

has to be played with larger units to be worth the time because it takes awhile



100 spins. (batch 1) Celtic Casino 23/01/2016.
1. 19
2. 4
3. 4  L
4. 18
5. 15
6. 0   L
7. 7
8. 15
9. 10
10. 4  L
11. 36
12. 5
13. 3  L
14. 35
15. 7
16. 7
17. 27
18. 24
19. 30  L
20. 23
21. 12  W
22. 23  W
23. 28  W
24. 18  L
25. 2
26. 00
27. 15
28. 17
29. 32
30. 8  L
31. 6
32. 21
33. 30 W
34. 15  W
35. 12  W
36. 29 W
37. 27  L
38. 7
39. 30
40. 1 W
41. 27 L
42. 0
43. 0
44. 32
45. 29
46. 27  L
47. 23
48. 23
49. 00
50. 2
51. 21
52. 8  W
53. 1  W
54. 30 W
55. 18 L
56. 17
57. 1  L
58. 3
59. 25
60. 21
61. 18
62. 24 L
63. 20
64. 10
65. 18
66. 6
67. 22
68. 15
69. 0  L
70. 10
71. 17
72. 20 W
73. 12 L
74. 14
75. 32
76. 27
77. 9 L
78. 8
79. 3  W
80. 27 L
81. 14
82. 3 W
83. 00 L
84. 9
85. 6
86. 14 L
87. 18
88. 22
89. 24
90. 6
91. 23
92. 35 L
93. 5
94. 6
95. 12 L
96. 5
97. 8 W
98. 4
99. 24
100. 30

Thanks Rouletteghost for posting the spins.
You would reach the wingoal of +50 on the 40th spin here if bet size is 10 initially

[Willie]

Also the original test of the system is on Euro layout, and these spins are the American ones, so need to cross check it on that as well.
( sorry forgot to mention at the start)

[RouletteGhost]

i shared your method on bet selection forum under the baccarat section

i extended credit to you, not myself

[mogul397]

In your results you would reach +70 by spin 21

I'm confused about how you implement play.

You said to wait for virtual wins after a loss.  Didn't
see that in the example.

Also, are you continuing playing for the chop till you lose? Or just
playing 1 spin and stopping?

Also, your nomenclature(sp?) is inconsistent. You talk about "units" as individual
things and then use "10 units". If that were the case "+/- 1 unit" would be
$10..... $11......$12........ on unit at a time. Not "10 units".

Your unit size is $10. Not 10 units.

[mogul397]

In your results you would reach +70 by spin 21

At "$10 units", there are 5 wins, and 2 losses.

+3 "units".  $30 if you like.

[mogul397]

BR can be 200
Win goal per session would be 50 when played with 10 units

So a 20 unit bank.  Win is 5 units?  $10 unit?

[mogul397]

yea i just wanted to show the win loss registry for a large number group...not bad at all

Also, after a win, wait for a virtual loss. Which is confusing. Cause then you are
waiting for a virtual win again, and never play.

[Willie]

i shared your method on bet selection forum under the baccarat section

i extended credit to you, not myself

Thanks

[Willie]

At "$10 units", there are 5 wins, and 2 losses.

+3 "units".  $30 if you like.

If you use the progression mentioned in the method, you would reach $70

[mogul397]

If you use the progression mentioned in the method, you would reach $70

Still not sure if/when we're supposed to wait for paper wins or losses.
The people who posted workouts didn't seem to wait for anything and
that didn't seem to bother anyone.

[Willie]

Still not sure if/when we're supposed to wait for paper wins or losses.
The people who posted workouts didn't seem to wait for anything and
that didn't seem to bother anyone.

You can read again for better clarity and they did wait 

[mogul397]

You can read again for better clarity and they did wait 

In the original post you say,

"On a win- Wait for a virtual loss and after that when any of the above 2 sequence comes, resume betting

On a loss- Wait for a virtual win and after that when any of the above 2 sequence comes, resume betting

Follow +1/-1 and reset on a new high."

Reply #20 is an extraordinary playout by atlantis.  The only one that I see that's actually
documented.  RG posted some, but just the data.

In the only detailed run that I see, Atlantis consistently documents waiting for a "virtual loss".
But after that never waiting for the "virtual win". I find the notion of waiting for the virtual
win confusing, but I asked and you never explained it.  But you seem to think that it was
done in the examples.  I don't see it.

BTW, +1 -1 is called a "D'alenbert" progression.

[RouletteGhost]

In the original post you say,

"On a win- Wait for a virtual loss and after that when any of the above 2 sequence comes, resume betting

On a loss- Wait for a virtual win and after that when any of the above 2 sequence comes, resume betting

Follow +1/-1 and reset on a new high."

Reply #20 is an extraordinary playout by atlantis.  The only one that I see that's actually
documented.  RG posted some, but just the data.

In the only detailed run that I see, Atlantis consistently documents waiting for a "virtual loss".
But after that never waiting for the "virtual win". I find the notion of waiting for the virtual
win confusing, but I asked and you never explained it.  But you seem to think that it was
done in the examples.  I don't see it.

BTW, +1 -1 is called a "D'alenbert" progression.

I think you read a little too much into it

All those inquiries you made hinder your understanding of the method

This is it: OE bet O. EO bet E.

Thats it. Nothing more nothing less.

OP recommended a progression of damblert and to wait 1 virtual win or loss.

You dont have to play that exact way. Free think a bit and try it in zumma

Whether its in examples or not doesn't mean much. Perform a test. Its such a simple method you can execute a 40 spin test in 3 minutes.

Constructive criticism: you think to deep into methods. This is simple. I mean this is as simple as it can get.