Some Advice And Where To Find How To Actually Win.

[The General]

I agree with all the AP stuff in theory, but don't see it as practical.   Let's say one did find a wheel that seemed bias after tracking thousands of spins.  There would still be alot of unknown variables, that there is no way to guarantee it's bias.

I've found hundreds and hundreds.  It's what I do for a living.  Bias wheel play and VB.  I find them based on visual defects.  We know they're bias because of the defects, because of chi square and standard deviation testing.   If you'd like some examples, I can show you sometime.

Different dealers spin the ball differently (spin, speed, etc).  Casino could change out or adjust the wheel.  A different ball could be used (different size, weight).   What was perceived as bias, due to a wheel defect, could actually be bias for one of many different unknown reasons.

How the dealer spins the ball is really of no consequence.  Largely, the last half dozen revolutions of the ball will be the same for each dealer.  The exception is for the dealers that "have a bad hand".  Such dealers tend to unintentionally bounce the ball when they release it, or snap it hard, causing a "heavy knee piont" (strong deceleration point) where the ball stops sliding and begins rolling in the direction of the spin.  This really has no effect on bias.  It can have an effect on VB though.

Different balls are put into play at various times, and they do have an effect.  However, the player can easily see when the ball has been changed and can refer to the data for each unique ball.

The same is true with a wheel change.  However, casinos rarely fix wheels on the casino floor.  They're usually sent out for repair.  On the floor, the only thing that usually takes place is cleaning.  There are some exceptions.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying wheel tracking is not effective.  But systems can also be effective too.

Unfortunately they can't.

I think short term bias can be just as effective and profitable as long term.  Sure, we might not know if it's actually variance or bias in the short term, but it doesn't really matter.  Even long term tracking doesnt guarantee the bias is due to a defect in the wheel.

Actually observation of the defect and long term tracking does ensure that the wheel is biased. 

Cheers,

The General (Caleb)


This is my last post on this forum if each of my posts must be pre approved by Turner.

[RouletteGhost]

I agree with all the AP stuff in theory, but don't see it as practical.   Let's say one did find a wheel that seemed bias after tracking thousands of spins.  There would still be alot of unknown variables, that there is no way to guarantee it's bias.  Different dealers spin the ball differently (spin, speed, etc).  Casino could change out or adjust the wheel.  A different ball could be used (different size, weight).   What was perceived as bias, due to a wheel defect, could actually be bias for one of many different unknown reasons.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying wheel tracking is not effective.  But systems can also be effective too. 

I think short term bias can be just as effective and profitable as long term.  Sure, we might not know if it's actually variance or bias in the short term, but it doesn't really matter.  Even long term tracking doesnt guarantee the bias is due to a defect in the wheel.

I agree 100%

Lets says the wheel by the lady in the red dress has a flaw from extended usage. AKA it is worn out. And it does have a slight bias

I do not think that guarantees success by attempting to exploit that bias.

The ball will most certainly avoid the bias based on how the dealer releases and spins. If the ball avoids the bias it cannot be exploited. Therefore the bias player can and will have many losing bets just like any other Mr. Smith roulette player

When the ball does enter the "biased zone" it was bound to happen anyway even on an unbiased wheel. Variance? Luck? Who knows if it was the bias that got you that win.

In my humble opinion VB is better. Physics. Ball release point versus wheel speed. Bias can be fallacy. Visual ballistics is science.

I think aspects of AP are fallacy

Play for fun. Only play with money you can afford to lose. And play however your heart desires: Advantage play. Systems. Flapjacks. Visual Ballistics. Methods. Martingale. Random betting.

Its your money play it as YOU wish. Dont let anyone tell you the right or wrong way to play a NEGATIVE EXPECTATION game. There is no right or wrong way, it is a game.

Dont be a junkie and only use disposable money. And for god sakes shower.

The bold text is better advice then you will ever get from Caleb.

[Tamino]

Caleb does not consort with people  with  a nursery mentality  to determine what is good  or bad for then .Play at your own risk.


Just like the lib nuts   around the globe   only WE know what`s good for your.


Be a master of your own destiny..

[RouletteGhost]

Play at your own risk.


Just like the lib nuts   around the globe   only WE know what`s good for your.


Be a master of your own destiny..

Hate liberals

Great post and advice

[Turner]

This is my last post on this forum if each of my posts must be pre approved by Turner.

There are 4 mods in total. Any of them can put people on moderate and approve posts
Dont assume.

[nottophammer]

This is my last post on this forum

Please, please let that be true


RG, everyone,cough, i'm off to the betting shop to play on the FOBT, oh yeah mickey mouse roulette to a couple

[RouletteGhost]

There are 4 mods in total. Any of them can put people on moderate and approve posts
Dont assume.

Should have just let him assume on that one. Hes good at assumptions without factual basis.

[RouletteGhost]

Please, please let that be true

I am agnostic. But i catch myself praying right now

[Scarface]

I've found hundreds and hundreds.  It's what I do for a living.  Bias wheel play and VB.  I find them based on visual defects.  We know they're bias because of the defects, because of chi square and standard deviation testing.   If you'd like some examples, I can show you sometime.



How the dealer spins the ball is really of no consequence.  Largely, the last half dozen revolutions of the ball will be the same for each dealer.  The exception is for the dealers that "have a bad hand".  Such dealers tend to unintentionally bounce the ball when they release it, or snap it hard, causing a "heavy knee piont" (strong deceleration point) where the ball stops sliding and begins rolling in the direction of the spin.  This really has no effect on bias.  It can have an effect on VB though.

Different balls are put into play at various times, and they do have an effect.  However, the player can easily see when the ball has been changed and can refer to the data for each unique ball.

The same is true with a wheel change.  However, casinos rarely fix wheels on the casino floor.  They're usually sent out for repair.  On the floor, the only thing that usually takes place is cleaning.  There are some exceptions.


 

Unfortunately they can't.

Actually observation of the defect and long term tracking does ensure that the wheel is biased. 

Cheers,

The General (Caleb)


This is my last post on this forum if each of my posts must be pre approved by Turner.

If you do this for a living and make good money, that is awesome.  When I say AP method was impractical, I was talking about someone like myself who don't have the time to track numbers, ball changes, etc.

But I would be interested in spotting defects in the wheel.  Are defects fairly easy to visually spot?  If so, whats something to keep an eye out for?

[RouletteGhost]

Generals signature is silly.

You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting.

[Tamino]

Caleb`s presence  on this forum did  not cause any one   losing any  money quite a contrast  to some  wild negative progressions   which had been heavily promoted.


Caleb did not bother me at the  original GG , neither at  Victor`s bet selection and now here at RF  as I always read his posts with an  open mind.

[RouletteGhost]

Caleb`s presence  on this forum did  not cause any one   losing any  money quite a contrast  to some  wild negative progressions   which had been heavily promoted.


Caleb did not bother me at the  original GG , neither at  Victor`s bet selection and now here at RF  as I always read his posts with an  open mind.

I have always liked you and seen you as a friend on the board and through PM. we are both native long islanders, we must be friends, lol

serious question for you

is it not true that you play systems as well? i do. most do. but you are disciplined

you dont go in with mortgage money correct? you play for fun?

[RouletteGhost]

ND i ask because you are not the most transparent cat

you bash systems but i know you play action numbers

[Tamino]

RG


I am a recreational player . For  practical purposes I favor the 22  Action numbers. On occasion a hit and run Black dominant EC against Red.Short term play but not every  spin .


If seat # 2 is not available  I might consider    playing   the second and third columns.

[RouletteGhost]

Likewise.  Recreational play.

Similar play here

Have a good night ND thanks for response

In AC with friends i play columns