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37 spin cycles

Started by RouletteGhost, Sep 14, 07:57 PM 2016

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psimoes

Quote from: denzie on Sep 16, 01:04 AM 2016
"If we jsut wait for any number to be ABOVE expected (once every 37 spins) then you can bet any number that has been shown 2 times within 37 spins, any number that is shown 3 times within 74 spins (2*37 spin cycle), any number that is shown 4 times withinh 111 (37*3)etc.

From BellagioOwner
Now it's all here
From what I recall, too many numbers hit 2 times in 37 spins and only a few will hit a third time in 74 spins. Of the latter, about half will hit a fourth time. The best bet seem the 3s to become 4s or even 4s to become 5s. Less numbers to bet. It requires more tracking (at least 148 spins - 37*4), but at least you get a larger sample to work on what´s hitting above average. The Pelayos needed about 2000 spins to find a bias. I´m not saying you guys should go AP or nothing (although you should) , but this method looks like a step in the right direction.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

RouletteGhost

Quote from: Turner on Sep 16, 02:07 PM 2016

Im not trying to piss on your chips (fries)
Its a quaint english saying

Similar american saying:

Don't want to "piss on your parade"
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

psimoes

Just go for SD3. Google that. I made a small mixup with the word "sample". The Pelayos used that sample of 2000 spins to bet any time of the day. Lengthy but it´s got the edge. This method tries to catch up numbers that get hot for a brief time. Immediate, but lacks edge. I say they´re part of the same thing. GoPro.

[Math+1] beats a Math game

RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Turner

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 16, 03:58 PM 2016
fish and chips with piss on though....its never gonna turn out well

denzie

Quote from: psimoes on Sep 16, 03:52 PM 2016
From what I recall, too many numbers hit 2 times in 37 spins and only a few will hit a third time in 74 spins. Of the latter, about half will hit a fourth time. The best bet seem the 3s to become 4s or even 4s to become 5s. Less numbers to bet. looks like a step in the right direction.

Good job  :thumbsup:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

psimoes

Those in the know could shed a light on what Standard Deviation 3 means. I´ve heard about it...
[Math+1] beats a Math game

Turner

Quote from: psimoes on Sep 16, 04:33 PM 2016
Those in the know could shed a light on what Standard Deviation 3 means. I´ve heard about it...

Std. Deviation: The abbreviation for standard deviation which calculates the measurement of the statistical dispersion, how spread out values are in a data set for all roulette layouts.   

Thats a quote from RX help. RX help is a brilliant maths textbook believe it or not, with a real time GUI to try numbers out and see SD in action

Best way to learn

SD3 is a measure of how far a certain group or individual number has deviated from the average or expected value

So number 1 appears 4 times in 37. It has a SD of around 3. It was expected to hit once (mean is 1)

#1 hitting 6 times in 37 spins is more like SD5

Its "hot" as they say, or "hitting above expectation"

Hope that helps

Of course, the average over time is for all numbers to appear the same

note:

A rough rule of thumb would say that numbers in 37 have an SD = 1 number less than the times they have hit

hit once....SD 0
hit twice....SD 1
hit three....SD 2
hit four......SD3 etc

Dont forget hitting below expectation or "cold"

a number which hasnt hit in 37 is SD -1

SD3 is a point where generally, we expect a return to mean or a fall back to 0

Its like pushing against elastic

Thats just probability and statistics. SD 4 is more rare than 3 etc

often enought SD will grow or hover at SD3.




psimoes

 :thumbsup: Many thanks for that.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

Turner

Quote from: psimoes on Sep 16, 07:11 PM 2016
:thumbsup: Many thanks for that.
No problem

Its not shrouded in mystery

Its like someone saying the wind is 25 knots and someone saying its very windy.

Same thing

BellagioOwner

Quote from: Turner on Sep 16, 06:42 PM 2016SD3 is a point where generally, we expect a return to mean or a fall back to 0

Agree.  Since on SD3 we have reached the 99.7 part of the 68-95-99.7 rule.  Which means 99.7% of the results will fall between +/- 3 SD from the mean.

So does this means that if a number has been hit 4 times within 37 spins (SD3) we should stop betting it even though is too hot  because now we expect it to return to the mean so we expect it not to hit again or not so often? What you think guys?
You can edit a bad page but you can't edit a blank page. Try things out! Don't procrastinate or wait perfect timing! Just start what you wish to do finally!

Turner

Bellagio
I think so.
If you are relying on the maths I suppose you should be taking notice of it.
2s going to 3s is obviously more likely than 3s going to 4s and 5s
Still....how do we know wihich ones?
clearly 1s are better candidates than 0s if this is the logic one is following

RouletteGhost

We know 2s will go to 3s

So why not be aggressive

Flat bet until youd break even then increase 1 unit per position

We are not talking a heavy progression
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

denzie

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 17, 08:07 AM 2016
We know 2s will go to 3s

Fact. But when ? In 1 spin or 10 ,15 ....

So why not be aggressive

Because you will lose

Flat bet until youd break even then increase 1 unit per position

And if you can't get break even ?

We are not talking a heavy progression
:thumbsup:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

RouletteGhost

Yes denzie i agree

We do not know when

However if a 2 does not go to 3 in this cycle it will in the next cycle. Take that to the bank

When betting only a few numbers a progression is very minor we are talking increasing one unit here and there. No marty.

Adding a chip should not hurt anyone
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

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