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Hot numbers in EC streaks

Started by Thunder Pants, Nov 13, 10:23 AM 2016

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Thunder Pants

Idea: one of the dealers at my wheel "moan'd" about hitting like 15 high numbers in a row. I look at the past spin and noticed that there was a couple of repeated numbers within that 15. Not that it was "hot" numbers from the "5 hottest" but repeats none the less. Logic also told me that if you are in the state of a EC streak then only half the numbers can fill the streak thus having twice the chance of a number repeating.

Conditions: This is NOT all time betting system, but you have to wait for the streak condition to appear. Like 2 or 3 Red numbers in a row is not a streak. Im still debating on when to leap in but 4 numbers seem the absolut minimum before starting to bet.

Example: The last four numbers was Red 1, Red 27, red 14 and red 18, so we put 1 unit on each number. Next number turn out to be Red 19 and we loose. So we bet the now 5 red numbers 19, 1, 27,14, 18 each with 1 unit. Next number turns out to be Red 14 and we win. No new red numbers so we bet the same 5 red numbers again with again 1 unit each. Next numbers is Black 35 and we loose and the streak/session is over, so we have to wait for another streak to appear.

Intial testing: first 2 steaks failed horrible, but thankfull wasnt long or expensive in units. 3rd streak i got Red 1 twice and Red 12 three times for a total of 3 wins. As a added "bonus" the bet never really became larger than 6 units because of the repeated numbers kept it small.

Conclusion: Need a lot more testing, but i like the small bets vs big rewards.

BellagioOwner

I thought that there was going to be a different style of system by the title.

This title made me think though something. What you think guys?

One of the biggest problems in hot numbers is that you don't know which to bet if they're too many of them or too early etc.

How about if it happens to see that the 2-3 hot numbers are all or most of them in the same category? All of them R or B or E or O or H or L. You could then bet all these hot numbers through their common EC bet. It may sound weird. Haven't tested at all. Just came on my mind  :xd: :thumbsup:

Not wanting to derail also the main thread I think that yes. You need more testings. Some 1000s at least actual bets.
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Thunder Pants

Quote from: BellagioOwner on Nov 13, 01:39 PM 2016
I thought that there was going to be a different style of system by the title.

This title made me think though something. What you think guys?

One of the biggest problems in hot numbers is that you don't know which to bet if they're too many of them or too early etc.

How about if it happens to see that the 2-3 hot numbers are all or most of them in the same category? All of them R or B or E or O or H or L. You could then bet all these hot numbers through their common EC bet. It may sound weird. Haven't tested at all. Just came on my mind  :xd: :thumbsup:

Not wanting to derail also the main thread I think that yes. You need more testings. Some 1000s at least actual bets.

Ah yes the title, actually had a real hard time choosing that one as first i was gonna go with a name like "Trailblazer" (old 8bit game about a ball rolling on the right colours) but decided to go with a descriptive-ish title instead as every time i try searching for something specific about roulette it end up giving me something completely different  :)

Tested this for a couple of days and i recall that the last session the repeat numbers was nearly equal to the 5 hottest recorded numbers all the time aka rougly 4 of the 5 listed "hottest numbers". Of cause it could have been a "abnormal" session as Red dominated like crazy and zero only hit once in like 2 hours. Of cause im not complaining.

Three interesting things i noticed in the "rare" situation of overly EC situation:
1. actually reached a point where so many Red numbers that the bet got "expensive" and had i bet the unhit Red i would have won equally or slightly larger because there is a turning point where 9 or more unique Red has hit and it becomes better hitting the 9 or less unhit numbers.
2. Seem beneficial to think of streaking as "overall" term and not just give up the second a single bad number show up. I noticed that in my case of 11 Red numbers in the last 14 spins, just because the next numbers is a Black it dosnt mean its not worth betting Red for a couple of spins more. So keyword: "overall".
3. Patience is importent. This is a rare situation, dont blindly start betting every time 4 of the same EC has shown. Better to wait for it to "prove it worth" aka with either a repeat number or a majority of the same EC numbers  to show. Nothing bet= nothing lost.

ego


Abstract - A line with 6 numbers - if it hits within four attempts is the same as a EC bet.
A street with Three numbers - if it hits within eight attempts is the same as a EC bet.

That is the definition of the cycle to get Tail or Head using numbers.
So if Three red number hit you can follow them for eight times and add more red numbers during the play if they show.
Same with six number strike.

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Thunder Pants

Quote from: ego on Nov 18, 11:24 AM 2016
Abstract - A line with 6 numbers - if it hits within four attempts is the same as a EC bet.
A street with Three numbers - if it hits within eight attempts is the same as a EC bet.

That is the definition of the cycle to get Tail or Head using numbers.
So if Three red number hit you can follow them for eight times and add more red numbers during the play if they show.
Same with six number strike.

Cheers

Thanks, that at least give me a couple of betting targets to aim for before either upping the bet or quit (never been good at running bet selection on the fly in a running game).

ego


Here is more food for tought ...

Assume you follow the last hitting numbers to repeat once with in 10 attempts.
Then you could Place a bet each time a new number hit up to six times - then if no win you bet does six number for four times.
So if the last six uniq numbers dont repeat once within 10 attempts you have a complete cycle with no hit and charting the sign plus +
If you get a hit within does 10 attempts you charting a sign with minus -
And if you hit at the 10 attempt you charting with the sign =

This way you can see cycles and skips as charting method.

One sample
- + - + - - - + - - - - - - = - + - + + - + + + - - + - - - - - - - - - - - - - + - - - + - - = - - = - - - - - - - + - - - +

One sample
- - - + + + + + - - + - - - - = - + - + - + = - - + - - + = + - + + - - - - - -

So what would you use as Entering Points and Exit Points...
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Thunder Pants

Quote from: ego on Dec 01, 03:58 PM 2016
Here is more food for tought ...

Assume you follow the last hitting numbers to repeat once with in 10 attempts.
Then you could Place a bet each time a new number hit up to six times - then if no win you bet does six number for four times.
So if the last six uniq numbers dont repeat once within 10 attempts you have a complete cycle with no hit and charting the sign plus +
If you get a hit within does 10 attempts you charting a sign with minus -
And if you hit at the 10 attempt you charting with the sign =

This way you can see cycles and skips as charting method.

One sample
- + - + - - - + - - - - - - = - + - + + - + + + - - + - - - - - - - - - - - - - + - - - + - - = - - = - - - - - - - + - - - +

One sample
- - - + + + + + - - + - - - - = - + - + - + = - - + - - + = + - + + - - - - - -

So what would you use as Entering Points and Exit Points...

Nice charting system, defiantely gonna borrow that  ;) Continually betting the last 6 numbers sounds a bit scary though, like in your example no 2 where there is 50 spins without a single hit. Had some session playing on the 5 hottest numbers so its definately not imposssible infact ive seen it hitting crazy but sadly also plummet to the ground with a hot numbers kept fazing out (turning cold) surpricingly fast & continually. Definately needs a big bankroll & probably some testing with "playmoney" in my case.

Entry & exit: seems to be quite dealer dependant at times. Perhaps enter after a new dealer has had 6 spins? and exit when their turn is over?

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