hit rate vs progression

[RouletteGhost]

Progressions are no way to play roulette if you want to win long term. The run from hell always destroys you

Unless you are a recreational player, then a progression and a wish may suit you if you do not care about winning or losing.

However

I personally seek to win as I wish to, using a progression with a high hit rate

So whats what i want

I want a high enough hit rate where I can safely use a negative progression

But, does it exist?

Some people seek it. Turbo promotes that it exists, but will not share the meat and potatoes of the said strategy. Failure to share is equivalent to non existence in my world.

Ignatus hunts for this daily

[mogul397]

If you had that, you would simply win with a flat bet.

[RouletteGhost]

Not that simple

I'll give an example that does not exist but will illustrate what I mean

Every 4 spins I am guaranteed to win an EC bet. Therefore I need to play 1 2 4 8 to win

A method where I know within a certain number of spins I will Win so I am safe with a progression

[RouletteGhost]

Specifically and ideally I'd like this criteria to be met on a 12 number bet

It's a stretch and probably not possible. But would be nice

[MumboJumbo]

But, does it exist?

Some people seek it. Turbo promotes that it exists, but will not share the meat and potatoes of the said strategy. Failure to share is equivalent to non existence in my world.

Ignatus hunts for this daily

Shame on them to keep secrets, if I made 100 000 spins on rouletteplayers.org and take first position then HG will be written here.

[denzie]

Progressions are no way to play roulette if you want to win long term.

But, does it exist?

Some people seek it. Turbo promotes that it exists, but will not share the meat and potatoes of the said strategy. Failure to share is equivalent to non existence in my world.

Interesting. Turbo promotes random. And he's 100% correct. Because of random we can see some numbers ALWAYS hit more than others. Now how to bet these numbers?  With the right progression. 

[RouletteGhost]

If we can find a happy median between hit rate and progression.....

[mogul397]

I was going to start a thread, but I've been stuck in the realm of NLE and playing
single or double dozens, flat.

Lately I've been making close to daily trips. About a half hour. Writing and
studying results.  And I generally make $20. Playing a little fast and loose.
One time I was down $60. I bet $20 on one prop. Won. I had $40. I bet that
and won. I got my $20.  That is not a "system", but it was based around bet selections
that were sensible. Mostly betting for a 3rd after 2 EC's.  A couple double dozen,
where I had $10 on two. Going with the tide.

What I have noticed is that the tendency on a table changes, but stays the same, or
similar, short term. So there were times where I would not be for a double dozen, cause
uniques kept coming out. Or, say doubles instead of triples. They tend to come in groups.
But often you will see a double. And you're thinking of following the trend. But it's still
triples.

Another one is when there are 3, bet against a 4th. That works good.  But so far with flat betting
you don't get into trouble. And there's a LITTLE BIT, where I won the parlay. I had 3 losses or something
so I was "due".

My point is that, in that realm there are like 5-10 different focuses that all seem to have the
same repetition and slant. I regularly talk about "Mr C" who looked for 2 -3 don't passes and bet pass.
He would roll dice at home to "practice". I did the same thing. And I was able to see "patterns".
Like he would say "is it a 2 don't or 3 don't table".

It's not magic and it's not rocket science. But I've collected data so many times where I see and say,
"oh, 3 in a row didn't work. It was doubles".  IT's a variation of the same thing. And if you have a toolkit
(like you are watching for a single after a multiple), then you can find the one that is striking. It is
for sure it will change and won't strike.  But I think that is the key. The weak point. The short term
repetition that you identify.

[mogul397]

So I went yesterday before my last post. And I went again last night
AFTER my post.

Earlier I went. I put in $20. I was at $35 and made a bet for the last $5
(not like it is a requirement). I ended up losing some bets and walked out
even. With my $20.

So I went again last night and won my $20.  This is not a system or a formula.
But a guideline.

It is interesting. The other day when I was down $60 and came back for a $20 profit, I
felt like that was a lot. Thinking later I realized that I slipped basically into a $20 unit,
and was down 3 units.

Perspective is important. When you are not in a progression mind set, you are looking
to get business done. Make your $20 (or whatever) and be done. Like when I am driving there
I am tempted to put in $100, make $50 on 2 dozens, make $50 (which is better than $20)
and leave. Or sit and watch in my head.

When I think about betting $5 flat (or even progression sometimes) I get bored.  And when I think of that
I always remenise about a time when I saw these two old women years ago talking about playing
slots. I pointed to a craps table and mentioned a $5 bet. Win or lose. Their eyes rolled and they
walked away.

There's a perspective. And if you get on the bandwagon where the pendulum isn't swinging too hard or
fast, you can make a bigger bet, win, and be done. The old saying is the best way to remove the HE,
is to walk up, make a $1000 bet, and be done.

[Tomla021]

looks like your becoming a smart gambler mogul

[Bettingking]

Yes Mogul I agree. Make a larger bet and if won then make smaller bets for the rest of the session. So if you win $100 then put $50 aside and only ever make smaller on the other $50 then if all the other $50 is lost then still walk away $50 profit.