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Started by Gzgzbee, Jan 25, 04:34 PM 2017

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denzie

Betting 8 numbers for 33 spins ? ? ? ?
Really?

And how are you gonna do that ?

Btw the more you test the more spins it will go. 60 now... 65 next week. ...etc....
As spins roll off our predictions get better

Gzgzbee

Just checked the progression!

Starting with 1p for 35 progression requires a bank of just under £1000! Max bet per number on a table with 1p bets is £25!

The last bet would be £25.71 (0.71p over). Not an issue!

We can actually wait to track till 29 spins to get our 8 unhit numbers.

29 Spin Wait + 35 spin progression = 64 progression! 

Statistically thats 5,907,972 : 1.


Gzgzbee

@BellagioOwner

Thanks for testing! where are you testing if you dont mind me asking?

Keep me posting! 

BellagioOwner

Quote from: Gzgzbee on Jan 26, 03:16 PM 201729 Spin Wait + 35 spin progression = 64 progression! 

Statistically thats 5,907,972 : 1.

I believe that this partially is an opinion arising from Gambler's Fallacy and they will say that wheel has no memory etc etc. Meaning that the 29 spin wait won't have an actual impact and that 35 step progression is just 35 step progression with or without waiting spins before as this will not change the odds of the future spins. I partially agree but also thinking to start a similar thread about Fallacy to see some points of view

Quote from: Gzgzbee on Jan 26, 03:21 PM 2017Thanks for testing! where are you testing if you dont mind me asking?

testmystrategy.com I don't fully trust the site to be honest but for plain testing of "limits of roulette and randomness" it is useful for some million spins. Just don't base any testing for real money systems on it. Only for theoretical and researching purposes as first step
You can edit a bad page but you can't edit a blank page. Try things out! Don't procrastinate or wait perfect timing! Just start what you wish to do finally!

denzie

Quote from: Gzgzbee on Jan 26, 03:16 PM 2017
Just checked the progression!

Starting with 1p for 35 progression requires a bank of just under £1000! Max bet per number on a table with 1p bets is £25!

The last bet would be £25.71 (0.71p over). Not an issue!

We can actually wait to track till 29 spins to get our 8 unhit numbers.

29 Spin Wait + 35 spin progression = 64 progression! 

Statistically thats 5,907,972 : 1.

Ok...now let's say you start to play...and you bust that 1000£ (which will happen)....
How long will it take to recover from that? (Hoping not another bust comes because the busts doesn't come exactly as the stats say)....
As spins roll off our predictions get better

Gzgzbee

But the point I am making is...yes the system will one day lose, but every time you start playing (from MY spin 1) i know the odds of me losing is 5,000,00 to 1! Based on a 64 progression! Yes when u get to 63 spins without a winner...I know the odds are not 5 millions to 1 and is 3:1!!

We all know roulette can be beaten with a crazy progression and a massive bank roll...with no table limits! FACT!

How many people have seen 50 blacks in a row before!!? It's not impossible as its always a 50/50 change...the wheel doesn't remember! But no one in the forum would have seen that!

If we all could play and only lose based on seeing 50 blacks...we'd all be winners.

Soo trying to out run the wheel is not such a crazy idea!


iggiv

this progression approach is unrealistic. Think how you gonna bet 25 bucks to get 1 c of profit. Only one crash will take all the money you made for many many days. It is not worth it. Waist of time.

Think what Steve said many times. Accuracy or predictions. You should concentrate not on how many spins you need the cold numbers to come up but rather think which numbers may come at the moment more likely than others

Toplivecasinos

It would take me about a year or more to do that. I know its not impossible but it would take a lot of time to do it. I cannot play 24 hours a day because its boring and would just play other game to make me entertained.

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: denzie on Jan 26, 03:35 PM 2017


How long will it take to recover from that? (Hoping not another bust comes because the busts doesn't come exactly as the stats say)....


Precisely -- the above question should be asked of all negative progressions. But, most people (including, strangely, some of the veterans on this forum) forget to ask themselves the above question before embarking on a typical negative progression expedition.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

mogul397

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 09, 04:59 PM 2017
Precisely -- the above question should be asked of all negative progressions. But, most people (including, strangely, some of the veterans on this forum) forget to ask themselves the above question before embarking on a typical negative progression expedition.

Well, I did try the 1,3,9 once and lost. On grass roots. And it only took 10-20 spins.
I lost about $120.  Sometimes you have to jump in to get closure.

But the problem I have with is isn't the progression. It is the limited exposure in terms
of attempts. The leverage is on the wrong side.  You REALLY have to be accurate, or lose.

And it always leaves you with the question of why not try a parlay?
NOBODY knows what you THINK they know

RouletteGhost

Mogul I've went through a ton of love spins and zumma, of course

You losing grassroots in 10 to 20 minutes is definitely a rarity

if it was me I would have went hard and heavy after the loss!
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

mogul397

RG I TOTALLY understand what you're saying.  It may be a weak link in my brain.
I went with my $150 or whatever expecting to make a few units on whatever basis.
I wasn't ready to do what you say.  And I was a little surprises, but not heartbroken.
As I might have said before, when I go "all in", that's what I'm there for. Even many
years ago when I bought in for $1K at a craps table. Played (parlay) up to an $800
bet. Didn't really win but didn't get my ass or anything handed to me.

But here's an example of my life for you. Most people need many random examples of
my life and how things work out. You see some gambling stories.

Yesterday we were in Lowes looking at plumbing fixtures. There was a small question.
I saw a woman at the desk and said, "Special assistance in the plumbing department".
She looked at me and said, "I'm not in plumbing". But then, almost immediately, took her
vest off and said, "This is my last day" and was ACTUALLY done.

You like odds. What are the "chances"?  60 years of that and, I can't predict or make them up,
but I hit those odds all the time.  After I package many stories in that light, people begin
to see, believe,and understand.

The same thing happens with medical stuff, but I won't go into it. My readings and vitals are
jus food for conversation.  Takes nurses a while to "get it".
NOBODY knows what you THINK they know

amk

Gzgzbee,

I dont think waiting for 29 numbers to appear will make the progression work as we see with these stats at link:://betselection.cc/roulette-forum/law-of-the-third-stats/

As we can see after 37 spins there can already be 29 numbers left but it can take 74+ more spins before there are 30 numbers hit.

Dont forget that the original testing was for 2 corners. Perhaps due to the geometric configuration of the 2 corners they are hit within 60 spins as 8 single numbers can sleep for 111 spins

37 spin cycle:

15   1
16   12
17   202
18   1417
19   6020
20   18309
21   41304
22   73951
23   98780
24   102814
25   80164
26   47276
27   20934
28   6706
29   1685
30   349
31   35
32   5

74 spin cycle:

25   46
26   304
27   1898
28   7536
29   22123
30   50675
31   88059
32   114050
33   107055
34   69801
35   29634
36   7735
37   1011

111 spin cycle:

29   31
30   181
31   1407
32   7570
33   29508
34   83849
35   151889
36   155781
37   69674

148 spin cycle:

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