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Re: MPR
Jan 03, 12:29 AM 2020
Mister Eko,

MPR freezes because spin delivery halts when no one is playing. So it is not really frozen, it just thinks you are not playing. The reality is you are playing, and if others are playing at the time then the spins will continue, but that is fraught with danger as at that point the other player/players have control of the READY button because you are assumed to be logged out. A simple fix would be for the game to continue spilling numbers regardless of player activity.  I don't see any problems with that as it simulates real world events. You don't see croupiers stop spinning the wheel because you need to take a toilet break.

The real problem is that players get disconnected from the game, god knows why, and MPR goes into hibernation waiting for new players to log in. In my opinion this is a player comfort glitch that should be addressed, but it is a free game service so we can't expect too much.

If your current session is important to you then there is a fix. It's clunky, but it can get you out of trouble until you are ready to refresh the game to log back in properly.

This works for windows based play, not sure about smartphone. First thing to do is register a second account. When MPR disconnects and freezes your game you open an incognito browser and log in with your back up account. Now MPR identifies a new player and starts up again. This way any bet on the table with your frozen account will complete.

Then depending on the result, it's up to you whether you want to see saw between the two browsers for a while or quickly close the back up and refresh the main account browser to log back in.

Hope this helps.  :thumbsup:




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Re: MPR
Jan 03, 02:39 AM 2020
Sometimes it freezes, and I had to reload the page - my bets I dont know where disappear. It is like 2x in every 100 spins average.

The software keeps connection with your pc alive. This is for a few reasons, one of which is to prevent cheating.

If the connection lags too much, this is probably why it disconnects, lags or has issues. I haven't been able to replicate it myself, and neither has the programmer, so finding the cause and fixing it is not so simple.

The more information I have from players, the better able to we are to address any issues.

2 spins in 100 is not a big issue. Although some people are unhappy that their progression is interrupted, ignoring the fact the spin outcomes are random whether you skip 1, 2, 100 or no spins. It is often used as an excuse for losses. Freezes can just as easily save you money as lose you money (actually it more likely saves you money).

The time would be good to rise up to 60 sec

We had a vote and decided on the current time. Members get what they asked for but I cant please everyone.

Also would be great to see our bankroll growing image

These are very misleading. Because if someone resets the bankroll, and shows you only winning from then on, it doesnt show you how good or bad the system is. that's why we show the data like win rate, for the lifetime of the account. If you want to showcase or test a specific system, best to use a separate account for this.

the average winrate is around 0.97, and wo is above after 10,000 spins, he has real edge?

Not necessarily because bad systems can still win in 50,000 spins. Simply the more spins, the more assured you are of the results reflecting the system's effectiveness. That's just how statistics works - you're never 100% sure, but can get very close to 100% sure.

I have 3 million live spins in my notebook. If you wanna upload to the game, please sent me a mail, I will send you the spin files.

Thanks but that would give you and others you may know an unfair advantage.

As for any bugs or issues, again the more feedback I have, the better able the programmer is to fix them.

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Re: MPR
Jan 03, 02:40 AM 2020
Taotie, I'll send your post to the programmer and see what he says.

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Re: MPR
Jan 03, 02:58 AM 2020
The software keeps connection with your pc alive. This is for a few reasons, one of which is to prevent cheating.

This would explain why you can continue to bet and all is recorded even though you have been logged off as an active player. Of course for this to happen there needs to be other players online.

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Re: MPR
Jan 03, 03:15 AM 2020
Steve,

It is okay, that other voted to be only 30 sec/spin time, but when will be vote again ?

Bankroll growing graph. It is simple. If someone example resets you writes near the bankrolll that resets:2. Or example if someone has 18 000 bankroll, and lose, the graph would show, like the growings too. Up to 2000, and again bankeoll lose, it calculate -5000 in the graph.

Why would me, or anybody get an advantage because of my 3 million live spins data?  You think I know the numbers head by head? 🙂

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Re: MPR
Jan 03, 04:57 AM 2020
Taotie, I'll send your post to the programmer and see what he says.

Ok, good luck.

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Re: MPR
Jan 03, 05:05 AM 2020
Steve,

It is okay, that other voted to be only 30 sec/spin time, but when will be vote again ?

No more votes, get used to it.
Oh, and make sure you use the ready button if other players logged on before you ask you to. If you don't Bombus will show up and boot you off.

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Re: MPR
Jan 03, 05:42 AM 2020
No need to use ready button, sometimes I dont have time to end my bets.

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Re: MPR
Jan 03, 05:50 AM 2020
...make sure you use the ready button if other players logged on before you ask you to.

Otherwise go away and come back later when the game is free.

BTW, you're welcome for the very helpful information I posted just for you.  :yawn:

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Re: MPR
Jan 18, 07:27 AM 2020
Tonight I decided to give MPR another go.
Well into a progression I place my get out bet and it's a winner!

Oh, wait, what's this?

User "Testing7" logs on just as the counter ticks down to 0 and MPR spits out two numbers, the first of which is my winner, but it skips over the winner and logs the next bet as a loser for me.

I really am sorry, but this MPR game is simply too bugged out for anyone to take seriously or even bother with.

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Re: MPR
Jan 18, 07:31 AM 2020
Tonight I decided to give MPR another go.
Well into a progression I place my get out bet and it's a winner!

Oh, wait, what's this?

User "Testing7" logs on just as the counter ticks down to 0 and MPR spits out two numbers, the first of which is my winner, but it skips over the winner and logs the next bet as a loser for me.

I really am sorry, but this MPR game is simply too bugged out for anyone to take seriously or even bother with.

Or maybe you shouldn't rely on progression systems alone.
precognition is real. Good luck!

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Re: MPR
Jan 18, 07:38 AM 2020
Or maybe you shouldn't rely on progression systems alone.

Whatever you prefer to play at any given time is not the point.

The game should be reliable and fair, that's the point.

As it is and as it has always been, it is neither.

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Re: MPR
Jan 18, 02:57 PM 2020
Taotie, we've established perhaps once in 100 or so spins, there might be a freeze or you miss out on betting a spin. I've tested for thousands of spins and havent seen this so havent screen recorded it for the programmer. But because of feedback, I know it happens.

The game's "fairness" is as fair as random.org spins (proper RNG).

The game's comparatively rare glitch doesn't make your win rate below 1. It doesn't make it unfair. If you miss betting on a spin at a real table, you might miss a win or loss. It's no different.

It is not uncommon for a losing player to blame the game, or think magnets are being used. So if you're referring to losses, dont blame the game. There is no such glitch that disadvantages a system.

I'll look into the logs and see what happened.

QUESTIONS:

1. Exactly what profile name were you using?

2. Did the glitch happen in the last bets you made with this profile? (knowing this will make tracking WHEN it happened easier)

3. If you recall, what numbers came out (double spit), and what were you betting (amount and bet types)?

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Re: MPR
Jan 18, 05:39 PM 2020
The RDO numbers are fair, I would never blame the numbers for wins or losses. Yes, I should have treated the glitch as a loss and kept going but it gave me the shits so I abandoned the effort.

It was a new account and I was testing something to see the actual win rate. In my view a glitch like that makes the whole exercise hypothetical.

Never mind.

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Re: MPR
Jan 18, 06:19 PM 2020
Yes, I should have treated the glitch as a loss

I checked the logs with your account around when testing7 joined. There doesn't appear to be any error like incorrect payout, or incorrect numbers.

If you're not going to give details, dont criticize me for not addressing them.

It sounds like you're saying the rapid succession of numbers meant you didn't get the chance to bet. Is this the case?

And no I don't agree a glitch like this once in about 100 spins makes any difference to the success of a system. It's actually more likely to save you money.

If at a real table someone blocks you from making a bet in time. Yes it's annoying, but do you then call the whole game "hypothetical"?


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