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Started by nottophammer, Jul 31, 02:22 PM 2018

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Badger

The biggest problem is that politicians have too much power to make and change laws. They get voted in and use that as a mandate to do what they want.
They should only be administrators and if laws need to be made or changed, referendums should be held where the voters decide.
I think that Switzerland operates that way.
The biggest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance ; it is the illusion of knowledge.
Daniel J Boorstin.

Steve

Down here, even referendum results have been ignored. We voted against local council creation, but they were created regardless. Not even the will of citizens is respected.

Citizens dont determine if a referendum should be held. Politicians do. Would they ever allow us to vote to reduce their power? Ever since the referendum indicated we didnt want local councils and they did it anyway, they have been trying to add legitimacy of local governments to the constitution. For now, the local governments here are actually illegal. But if you take them to court you still lose. Law and courts are mostly business, not justice.

The police enforce whatever a stamped piece of paper says. So the judges have very high authority. And judges are appointed by the people they serve, which isnt everyday citizens.

There are problems everywhere. Theres barely a day i dont think of what might be a workable solution. It appears no matter what, without sufficient awareness of people, any plan is dead in the water.

But im always interested in anyones ideas.
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Steve

Ultimately the problem is consciousness. People are just clueless. Most people are only aware at a low level. Too busy working, too distracted with their favorite tv shows, too worried about paying bills to see what's really going on.

So how do you increase awareness. Teslas paper called The Problem of Increasing Human Energy is part of it.

I dont expect there is an easy solution. Some people are so far behind. We dont need everyone aware, just enough for critical mass. That time is coming regardless. Then the elite will initiate plans to deal with that.

I have no doubt its going to be messy. Revolutions always are. Violence is not a good option. Thats last resort. Violence will lead to more demand for control. But even if there is no violence, it takes only one stupid act from one person, then peoples perception of the situation changes, and they demand security in exchange for liberty.
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Steve

I think the US is not far from civil war. If that happens, everyones best action is to work with their local community. You cant go it alone like a crazed prepper.
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nottophammer

Turner you're quiet the racist, you talk of stinking chinese with stinking sweaty armpits, leaning over you in Grosvenor.
So one moran swayed you to vote stay.

Turner we have not even left the EU, you have not had one single day of the UK out of the EU.

Was there such furore when we were led in to the EU by the conservative party, After President de Gaulle of France had blocked UK membership twice in the 1960s.
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Steve

Quote from: nottophammer on Aug 02, 04:55 PM 2018Turner you're quiet the racist, you talk of stinking chinese with stinking sweaty armpits, leaning over you in Grosvenor.

That it is pretty racist.
Clearly they're Korean.








Disclaimer: It's a joke. Not racism.
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Quote from: Steve on Aug 02, 06:21 AM 2018
I think the US is not far from civil war. If that happens, everyones best action is to work with their local community. You cant go it alone like a crazed prepper.

its media fueled

liberal biased media loves dividing people

they always throw "black male" into their headlines

they try to make everything about race and gender here

damn liberals
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Steve

Yes I agree. TV has never represented what's happening in the real world. It has been literally weaponized.

It does no good to complain to politicians, because most are clueless. What needs to happen is more independent media. But internet news is still dominated by TV news.
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RouletteGhost

the media is making american politics very very bad

violence everywhere

trump supporters are attacked....etc...bad news

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wiggy

People need to educate themselves more because there is no excuse for ignorance in my book. Sure, a lot of people get distracted by work, family etc, but I reckon a lot of them know deep down that a lot of things are not what they should be and yet they carry on regardless. It's probably not fair for me to have a pop at the U.S. when we here in the UK are no better but seriously the whole Hillary / Trump thing was just a grotesque freak show and yet supposedly educated people whip themselves into a frenzy over it all. God help us!
"You can lead a human to intelligence, but you can't make him think''

RouletteGhost

my country will collapse from within

the shadow government pumps racism and sexism into everything to divide us

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Steve

Anyone paying attention expects the US to have massive problems soon, along the lines of civil war, mass unrest. Rg, good luck to you. But you know australia is becoming just as screwed. We're about 5 years behind.

One good thing though for now is relative low population.
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RouletteGhost

we voted for nationalism

we voted for america first

our media and the democrats are trying to peddle to us that it was russia

when trump won far leftists were rioting in the streets

if i wear a trump hat in public (i dont own one but if i did) id be beaten up

but i mean, can we have some FAIR trade...our european allies screw us with trade...PAY YOUR DAMN NATO BILLS TO

:xd:
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Steve

If Earth was a computer program, it is so bad that I'd just scrap it and start over with a new programmer. Not the Earth, the morons living on it.

But on the bright side, I believe we are all here by choice. If that is the case, then i'm not sure what I was thinking. The glossy brochures must have misrepresented this place.
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