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How to improve my strategy

Started by ozon, Nov 17, 07:23 PM 2017

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ozon

How to improve my strategy
Does anyone have an interesting idea how to improve strategies for 2 dozen bets
I know that I have short term edge playing 2 dozen flat  bets on no zero wheel.
I have some such graphs after 10k spins, and look almost same, but in a long run let say 500k its a loser.

What can give even a slight edge to the player.
This strategy is a  every spin flat bet. But you can use virtual win after two lost bets will change something for the player?I  dont  know.

Maybe somebody will advise how to maximize the effectiveness of bet.
It is a minimal change that can cause a minimal increase in edge.
What  is best solution from yours experience.

caspian


Andre Chass

Instead of betting on the 2 dozen (table 24 numbers), bet on 2 sectors of the wheel (24 numbers). Wait for 4 virtual losses and then start betting.

For example

7-28-12-35-3-26-0-32-15-19-4-21

20-1-33-16-24-5-10-23-8-30-11-36
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

ozon

Andre
With all due respect.
How does this increase the effectiveness of the strategy in long run?
You coded it in RX and you know that virtual lose increases the edge?

Andre Chass

Yes, this will increase the advantage. Some here will say no. Do your own test on RX and get your conclusions.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

ozon

I got edge playing 2 dozen bets, I tested many combinations of EC and one dozen bets, the positive result was only with this bet selection plaiyng flat.
I  want learn  something  new .  Maybe  I  dont  see something very valueable,  what  can change little  edge.

I  dont  think  that  negative  progression can change edge in 2 dozen  bets . Mayby Im wrong. Its  very  risky.

ozon

There are many options for using virtual lose.
With 2 dozen bets, and can wait for 2 virtual lose, and then play once, or play for the first lose. What is best solution. Mayby someone test best way in long run.

Proofreaders2000

I would think if it passes 10K spins in profit that's a winner.


ozon

I test this bet some 10k spins, and almost all look the same, but 500k spins test is a loser.

In  reality  ,  only no zero wheel  is betvoyager , and have hidden   casino edge by 10% fee  from winnings.
Only solution  is increasing the  edge

foreverBOB

Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 17, 07:37 PM 2017
Instead of betting on the 2 dozen (table 24 numbers), bet on 2 sectors of the wheel (24 numbers). Wait for 4 virtual losses and then start betting.

For example

7-28-12-35-3-26-0-32-15-19-4-21

20-1-33-16-24-5-10-23-8-30-11-36


I you use triggers in order to bet after certain Virtual Losses, you should also pause betting at some point, for example after certain Actual Losses or Wins.
These "virtual" approaches delay the complete game and are dependent on past spins and its actions therefor are dependent on future spins. While pausing you might believe to avoid losses but you might as well miss potential wins.
Take any W/L outcome of your virtual strategy and compare it to any other non virtual W/L outcome. Both should be almost identical (=win and loss total count) long term without proving any edge whatsoever.

Bob

foreverBOB

Quote from: ozon on Nov 17, 08:16 PM 2017
I test this bet some 10k spins, and almost all look the same, but 500k spins test is a loser.

In  reality  ,  only no zero wheel  is betvoyager , and have hidden   casino edge by 10% fee  from winnings.
Only solution  is increasing the  edge

10k spins is a lot for such a high coverage bet to come out positive so many times. Could you post a 500k graph?

Roulettebeater

why do you want to bet every spin?  you taking yourself to the place where the house likes to beat you... and it will (Think of table limit and limited bankroll)
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: ozon on Nov 17, 07:59 PM 2017

I got edge playing 2 dozen bets, I tested many combinations of EC and one dozen bets, the positive result was only with this bet selection plaiyng flat.

I  want learn  something  new .  Maybe  I  dont  see something very valueable,  what  can change little  edge.

I  dont  think  that  negative  progression can change edge in 2 dozen  bets . Mayby Im wrong. Its  very  risky.


I agree with the above highlighted parts of your post. I have experimented a lot with many, many betting methods that involve 2 dozens (or 2 columns).

And I can quite confidently tell you that with with such 24 number bets, you either make it with flat bets or you don't -- it is as simple as that.

Negative progressions involving 24 number bets are very efficient bankroll killers.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

ozon


ozon

So it's time to show you the strategies of how to beat the wheel with no zero.
The graphs show not only bet selection, but also something that increases their edge, something that does not seem to work, but still.
We use positive progression
These 2 graphs represent 4 levels
10
15
22
33

We see that we are all zero, but we can gently increase the edge by adding 5 level.
49

However, I am looking for another solution because 10% tax from winning eliminates this strategy.

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