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How to improve my strategy

Started by ozon, Nov 17, 07:23 PM 2017

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ozon

Trying to mix, several losing concepts in one.
I can not get in touch with my RX programmer, for those who want to check, I recommend to program and do a long test.

My strategy was based on double dozens, but we know that using a zero wheel wheel, we are putting up a high house edge.

The strategies I want to test now are the EC bets.

Bet selection
Always play with trend, Folow the last decision.
The inclusion is that after 2 loses, wait for virtual win, I have old tests where this approach always returns  after thousands of spins to zero point, which could mean a delicate edge.
MM
3 step positiv progresion
10
22
49

Most of the tests I conducted on a wheel without zero, and here I am curious how the combination of several concepts worked.
What can we expect?
If at all possible it would work, the edge would be minimum probably would not exceed 1% on no zero wheel.
The best attempt would be to transfer to Europen Wheel, when we have La Partage rule, and house edge only 1.35% for EC.

ozon

Another idea for potential theoretical winning strategies
This weekend I read some old posts and found my answer to Falkor post.
He was doing simulations, where he tried to turn the hot numbers and for the best selections he chose when the 11 streets  hits will be the last cold one, we play against this one once.
He did the simulations and he probably even had a zero on the wheel.

I thought a little bit to reduce the casino edge  and use french roulette and not put on each street separately, but the field bets on high or low, we have a return of the stake from the bets if it falls zero.

The strategy is only suitable for fast spin RNG ideal for building a bot

I still have the idea for a short positive progression that will increase the edge over the casino

ozon

A little more combinations.
This time we will choose baccarat, house edge is small and we do not have zero.
We only play Player
After 2 loses wait for virtual win.
MM 4 step positive progression.
10
22
49
110

celescliff

If I understand you correctly, you're betting against an event. If you don't, skip this post.   ;)

The problem with betting against an event is that even though it may seem like a very rare event and you have increased the odds of that event to not happen, you also have increased the odds for the other steets to not hit as well. They are exactly as rare.

An example:

Lets take dozens. We leave out zero for now.

You wait three spins. The dozens that came were 1,2,3. Lets say that you bet against this event from happen again in the next three spins. 

The chances of 1,2,3,1 to happen may be rare, but in reality the chance of 1,2,3,2 or 1,2,3,3 to happen are also exactly as rare.

Thats why betting against a pattern or event don't work. That same applies for all outside and inside bets.

That was just an example.

There are other ways to play patterns and events but my advice is never to bet against them.


ozon

I try to never play against the event.
The strategies included in this topic are based on a trend game.
I did not write about the betselection I present in the charts, but it's just about playing 2 hottest Dozens.
In the post related to the tests of FAlkor, we also play hot 11 streets, we leave only 1 coldest and play against it once.

ozon

I still have a request for someone who is programming in RX.
If he can check how the strategy works from my post, there should not be a lot of work to do.
no zero wheel, with 4 step positive progression for EC bet. , from higher post.
I want to calculate if it gives it any edge and how distant it is from house edge in baccarat.

Kattila

Ozon, what is good is that you realize that positive progresions are the best ones. About bet selection, yes the trend/hot group is very good bet selection but there are better ones, think how you can have/create  a  losing sequence and the Ws will come most of the times.     

Celescliff,
Bet against a rare event is not bad idea if
you ( not random)are the one who create the rare event . Take this example with splits and tell me what would you bet after that:
Last 12 different splits put into order/pattern 123123123123 .
Also no necesary 12 different with the condition that any from that splits repeat in the same position/group.
Other pattern can be 112233112233
So at the end, are this patterns the same or not with the patterns created by random ....


celescliff

Quote from: Kattila on Dec 02, 11:53 AM 2017
Celescliff,
Bet against a rare event is not bad idea if
you ( not random)are the one who create the rare event . Take this example with splits and tell me what would you bet after that:
Last 12 different splits put into order/pattern 123123123123 .
Also no necesary 12 different with the condition that any from that splits repeat in the same position/group.
Other pattern can be 112233112233
So at the end, are this patterns the same or not with the patterns created by random ....

Your event you created is absolutley no different from the event that I created in my example above. And both of the patterns you showed also makes absolutley no difference what the next split the ball will land on. The chance for 112233112233 will be exactly as rare whether you gonna bet 1122331122331, 1122331122332 or 1122331122333 in the next spin.

Kattila

So, in your opinion random will hit After the pattern the same order....112233. Maybe sometimes yes, but most of the times the groups will change the Position, random can not stay in order to much.

celescliff

Quote from: Kattila on Dec 02, 01:31 PM 2017
So, in your opinion random will hit After the pattern the same order....112233. Maybe sometimes yes, but most of the times the groups will change the Position, random can not stay in order to much.

Since you havent changed any odds the answer is yes. And its not an opinion, its a fact.

I play pattern somewhat myself, but I never play against them since playing against an event will make you bet to many numbers. Ive made simulations of this in the past and the odds dont change a bit.

Ratwood85

AGAIN.. slice everything into 4pieces. Play only 9numbers. There is a time when 1piece of slices will SLEEP TIGHT(need patient to wait this moment).. DO NOT try to wake it up, just let it sleep until it feel enough to wake up itself and you'll amaze with her performance after sleep for a long time.. i used 12negative progressions. i already tried to wake it up as a fallacy but it always busted my BR.. need patient but it worth..

ozon

I already think about a similar concept.
We can also try to set some rules.
When we start the sessions, we wait 7 cycles.
We will play DS, 7 cycles after 6 spins gives us 42 spins.
After 42 spins, we start betting colddest DS, because the theory is that after about 7 cycles, the coldest sector should start to heat up.
How long do you play such a DS? Mayby 5 hits.
I do not have any ideas for progression
This  is  only theory.

ozon

After reflection, the assumptions of the last post are not good.
Because playing a cold selection, it probably does not have a deep sense.

Ratwood85

My trigger always sleeping sector and repeating sector. I won't be greedy so after it wake up, i only need 1win from it, i don't need it to become hottest. Need patient but worth.

ozon

Yes, waiting for one win can be ok.
How aggressive progression  do you use, something like martingale for 9 numbers sector? How many steps?

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