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Started by RouletteGhost, Dec 22, 08:20 PM 2017

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Locomotivist

Quote from: Steve on Jan 11, 06:33 PM 2018

Loco, I wouldnt even trust 2fa. I dont even like having funds in offline wallets but besides fiat currency there is no safer option. Just have only what you trade with in exchanges.

OK, forget crypto currencies. But for most other things (like email or online bank accounts), 2FA is the best security option that we "little people" have to lower the chances of someone hacking into our accounts (at our end).

ati

A huge market crash is happening today, looks like a good time to buy. What would you guys buy?
I finally have â,¬350 on Coinbase to spend. Thank god I didn't buy XRP when it was $3 :)

Steve

It's the annual market crash. It has happened before and will happen again. Anyone who sold in panic at a loss will be regretting it soon. Already market is in recovery.

As time passes there will be more shitty coins that die. During these crashes, everything crashes. But the better coins recover quicker.

When I see a crash, I only get disappointed when I dont sell and re-buy when prices start to rise again. I lost heaps in past few days, but have no doubt it will come back up mostly in next few days.
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RouletteGhost

Every year at this time there is a dip

I took the opportunity to buy 4 more litecoins at $150

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Steve

When I first saw a major "dip" (aka crash) I panicked and sold 90% of my bitcoin. After all it wasn't like a normal stock crash, because the technology is still new. I lost about 30% of the total amount although still made a profit.

Then in the coming days, the market quickly recovered. And weeks later, there was a new all-time high. And a few months later, the price had increased to over 5 times from when I sold.

Everyone who sold in the panic of the last few days is now regretting it. The bears were driving the price down and feeding off the negativity and fear. You can see their bots constantly place low volume orders with low prices to drive the price down. Then right at the bottom of the dip, it's a war between the bears and the bulls. The bulls do the opposite, and drive the price up. Then both the bulls and bears become bulls and the price rebounds quickly. Meanwhile the typical investor is left wondering what the hell just happened.

This is what bear action looks like. Notice the long thin line:



This is bull action:



It's a sign of market manipulation that triggers a wave of panic buying and selling. You can try doing it yourself (although it's unethical and illegal) but realistically you need a bot to place fast orders to make your orders look like lots of people. OR just observe what's happening and ride the wave of buying or selling. Again day trading as I see it is understanding investor psychology. But I dont recommend day trading unless you have a really good bot and algorithm. Doing it manually is far too stressful and time consuming.

In this recent dip, I just sold part of everything then re-purchased when things started to turn (shorting).
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Steve

Here's another example of bear action. They try to bring the price down multiple times, then eventually give up because there's too much buy pressure. No doubt they'll try again when they see a scary looking price increase, because they know people will be expecting a sudden drop, at which point people panic sell:

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Locomotivist

While for stocks I prefer fundamental analysis (a la Benjamin Graham), for crypto currencies, I can understand why technical (chart) analysis might be relevant at least for now.

It is literally a brand new commodity and market and it will take some time before we can understand what the underlying "fundamental" factors are that  move prices up and down.   

Steve

Im not really a fan of technical analysis. It gives an edge but there are much better approaches. Technical analysis still has a place because it relates to investor psychology.
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Steve

Weeeeeeeeee...

Enjoying the ride, RG?

One mention of regulation, and the market craps itself. Regulation is a good thing. I expected this, but expected it later this year. The coins open to regulation will last, although all appear to be hit. I should have been shorting the coins but havent had time to watch the movements this time. Just had to HODL. One month I made over a million, then lost half of it. It will be back. My selections are good.

Be careful of verge and other coins that cant easily be regulated. There is no way cryptos will be outright banned because they are too important for innovation. And its only a matter of time before fiats all go to blockchains. Digital money is where it is headed, and there will likely always be private blockchains - but they will be regulated.

I dont see the good coins going down much more. I suggest though avoid coins that only function as a payment, like bitcoin. They have no additional utility or purpose. They are no more useful at $20,000 than $1. Whereas coins like Cardano have a proper function. Well not yet, but they will - more so than ETH.
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Steve

One thing to keep in mind is when the market dives, consider is it an over-reaction, or valid bad news? Definitely it's an over-reaction.

Either way the bears push it down even further which exaggerates the loss. But then the bulls push it the other way when the support level is reached.

This time its a combination of:

* Too many scam coins around
* Serious lack of regulation
* Talk of scary sounding regulation
* It's partially a healthy correction

If you own shitty coins, you need to get out of them asap, but first wait for some upwards movement. But it may even be better to dump them now and move to better coins, because they are all in a slump. Everything will move together back up anyway. Long term the better technology will hold.

Main question I have is how will government cryptocurrencies perform compared to public blockchains like bitcoin? Although simple currency coins like bitcoin dont have as much use as like ETH, I expect they will still mostly do well because of demand. After all, consider FOREX.That's just money and people still trade it. But add the utility functions of blockchains like with ETH and they have better value than mere numbers and perception - they also have a real use.
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Steve

I forgot to add, most investors are a few cans short of a slab. That's why they're sinking money into useless coins. They have little understanding of what's valuable and useful, and what's not. But these idiots largely control price movements, so they need to be taken into consideration. Like serious coins are down more than some really bad and potentially scam coins. This is temporary. Over time, eventually, the real truth comes out and the better coins will dominate.
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ati

Thank god I couldn't deposit money in December, I would have made some bad calls, and would have lost even more money. I've spent probably well over a hundred hours in January learning about cryptos, and it has been very useful.
As someone who doesn't have a lot of money to play with I try to find good opportunities in new and upcoming coins that have the potential of a 50x return in a year. Maybe I will try to learn day trading as well. People on youtube who make $500+ a day make it look so easy.

Currently I have around â,¬1300 invested, and due to the high transaction fees and the recent market crash, I already lost about half of it. But hopefully things will turn around.
I put 5K more onto my Coinbase account, but I can't decide when to buy. Many people expects BTC price to go down to $5-6K, because that's where the price would (or should) normally be without the exponential boom at the end of last year.
Some of the altcoins I'm currently looking to invest in are, Utrust, Ethos, Trinity network, Internet node token, Wanchain, maybe some Electroneum, Cardano, ICON and NEO.

Steve



Eyes on bitcoin. There was lots of news that caused the nosedive. It was expected but I thought it would be mid-2018. What am I doing? Just holding. The companies I'm with are good. If you are with companies that function solely as a coin, you need to swap to a real company with technology functions as more than a store of value.

I think the price of BTC can go to around US$4500. But keep in mind the bulls are watching and waiting. In the attached image is when they jumped. If they fail to boost the price, they will try again soon. They already boosted it, but we dont yet know if the trend will continue up.

I dont expect the whole market to recover for perhaps another few months. There are lots of factors at play. If you shorted, I think now is best to buy back in because the bulls have started. If not, just HODL and be patient. There are going to definitely be a series of big ups and downs in at least the coming weeks. Its going to be a bit crazy but if youi panic sell you're far more likely to lose imo.

Disclaimer: I'm not a financial advisor, take you own risks, use your own brain blah blah
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Steve

Here's the "dot com bubble" around year 2000. Looks like a small blip, right? See what happened later:



The blockchain and related technology has a lot of applications. I expect it will be very widespread. there's no doubt about its value. The question is more which technologies and companies will become dominant. In this case, we see a lot of the large companies died off although still recovered very well. But apple's recovery was exceptional.

Again with any new technology, the better technology prevails and inferior companies die off. Choose your company carefully. Fundamental investing, not technical analysis. There's a place for TA but its looking more at the effect of price movement, whereas fundamentals look more at the cause.
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cht

Quote from: cht on Jan 10, 05:29 AM 2018
Red flag from FCA on ICO using cryptocurrencies.

link:s://:.theguardian.com/business/2017/sep/12/cryptocurrency-investors-bitcoin-could-lose-money-fca-warns

With mifid 2, we can expect to see a concerted effort in EU to rein in cfds, bo and this ponzi style crypto ico.
Read this thread.
link:s://:.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=731832

My earlier post(8 Jan) predicted price is expected go below $7000, now it's at $6453. :thumbsup:

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