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question for Turbo

Started by maestro, Mar 01, 03:37 AM 2018

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maestro

QuoteIt was explained before.

by who...you..
lets leave it here and get going with more important things...everyone has head and can draw their own conclusions :thumbsup:
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

TurboGenius

Quote from: Steve on Mar 05, 08:58 PM 2018No they don't. You get higher bonuses for consecutive day logins. And all it takes is a player to login often, get lucky once, then continue to login every day and play a lot (but not too much), and you're practically guaranteed to rank high.

Again, not true at all. Everyone starts with a small sign in bonus and then it climbs until (like everyone playing there) it maxes out at 3k per day - for everyone. There is nothing unfair about it, we all get the same amount. If you let it build and don't play, you'll never be on the leaderboard. People who play risk losing it - that's how the game works.
People who win will grow their bankroll and continue climbing upwards.

Quote from: Steve on Mar 05, 08:58 PM 2018And the only reputable test I know of (MPR) shows a clear loss with Turbo's system.

Not true, I never played "my system" on MPR - therefore it couldn't possibly have failed.

Quote from: Steve on Mar 05, 09:02 PM 2018which explain your results are not credible, and you are misleading people. It is wasting people's time.
Sure it's their time to waste.

Have you been reading ? Some people haven't had their time wasted at all.
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jekhb76

Quote from: TurboGenius on Mar 06, 07:06 AM 2018
Again, not true at all. Everyone starts with a small sign in bonus and then it climbs until (like everyone playing there) it maxes out at 3k per day - for everyone. There is nothing unfair about it, we all get the same amount. If you let it build and don't play, you'll never be on the leaderboard. People who play risk losing it - that's how the game works.
People who win will grow their bankroll and continue climbing upwards.

Not true, I never played "my system" on MPR - therefore it couldn't possibly have failed.

Have you been reading ? Some people haven't had their time wasted at all.
@ Turbo, stop replying to these posts, it isn't worth it. those Who don't read, won't learn.

Steve

Taotie, I had a bot running for hours and still no freeze. Are you possibly opening up a separate window, or are logged in elsewhere? Because then the server logs you out to prevent a cheating loophole.
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Steve

Quote from: TurboGenius on Mar 06, 07:06 AM 2018Again, not true at all. Everyone starts with a small sign in bonus and then it climbs until (like everyone playing there) it maxes out at 3k per day - for everyone.

Read what I said. What happens when one player logs in every day for weeks, and another player logs in every second day?

Player 1: gets huge bonus every day, and can easily out-rank player 2
Player 2: gets much smaller bonus and cannot compete with player 1, provided they don't play too much.

Sure everyone CAN login every day, but that's not what would happen, which works in favor of players who are regulars. I've explained it before. Not sure why you are pulling the "but everyone can do the same... if they want" card.

Quote from: TurboGenius on Mar 06, 07:06 AM 2018If you let it build and don't play, you'll never be on the leaderboard. People who play risk losing it - that's how the game works.

You're still missing it. Winnings from bonus credits are counted. Either you really don't understand this, or you're deliberately avoiding it.

Quote from: TurboGenius on Mar 06, 07:06 AM 2018Not true, I never played "my system" on MPR - therefore it couldn't possibly have failed.

So when you said you want two accounts (one for testing, one for serious play), you deliberately used a losing system for your serious account?

Quote from: TurboGenius on Mar 06, 07:06 AM 2018Have you been reading ? Some people haven't had their time wasted at all.

Even the martingale seems great, for a while.
Even CEH "had something", for a while.

I explained some basic testing on the other thread:

A Simple Test:

1. First understand that testing the principle of repeaters is not reliant on there being a wheel with 37 pockets. If repeaters were real, you'd get the same thing happening on a wheel with 3 15, 26, 37 or however many pockets. The only difference is testing a hypothetical wheel with fewer pockets takes much less time.

2. Download the free software at link:s://:.roulettephysics.com/roulette-pattern-detector/ (make sure you know how to format the input data)

3. Find a reputable source of random number generator. Most people use :.random.org - generate hundreds of thousands of spins with numbers between 1-10. You could do it with 37 numbers but the testing will take longer.

4. Use the free software to check how many times these sequences happen:

1,1,2
1,1,1,2
1,1,1,1,2
1,1,1,1,1,2

1,2,4,3,8,3,2,2,2
1,2,4,3,8,3,2,2,3
1,2,4,3,8,3,2,2,4
1,2,4,3,8,3,2,2,5

There are countless combinations of "repeaters" you can think of. Test everything imaginable. Test your "triggers" for betting on repeaters. Make them as simple or complex as you want.

IMPORTANT: The more complex (longer) your sequence of spins, the more spins you must test for reliable results. So if you have 10,000 spins and want the sequence 1,2,3,1,1, it may never happen in 10,000 spins. But it will happen many times in 100B spins. It's all just a matter of SCALE. This is important to understand because RANDOM HAS NO BULLSHIT LIMITS. It just keeps going and going. Ideally you should be testing with sets of millions of spins at least. You want to be sure, right?

5. Repeat the testing with different sequences, and compare how many times a sequence will appear in your test spins. REMEMBER you need lots of spins for proper testing. You cannot possibly get reliable results with even millions of spins if you test random numbers with 37 different numbers. If you test on a smaller scale (10 numbers) it is the same principle being tested but on a different scale. If you really want to test on 37 spins, you only need more test spins.


WHAT YOU WILL FIND:

No special sequence of numbers will occur more frequently than another. Whether it be killer repeaters like 1,1,1,1,1,5 or a more ordinary-looking sequence like 1,4,2,3,9,3... they will occur the same amount of times. There will of course be slight differences, and they are less differences the more spins you test.

MY POINT is test any "amazing" run of repeaters you want. You will find repeaters is delusion. No matter what numbers repeat, the odds of the next number spinning HAVE NOT CHANGED.

There is simply no reason why a previous number, or group of numbers, would have any influence on future spins. There is an exception but I wont confuse matters here. Let's keep it simple.

Anyone can do the testing themselves. You can write an even better program to do the testing. For example, make it test with random sequences. With related approaches, you can uncover statistical anomalies, which is what other software I developed does. But again let's keep i simple here. Test for yourself, then you repeaters players will find you've been wasting your time.

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Yes yes, you will say "you beat a math game with math and the math doesnt matter", and you "win because spins are random" etc. To anyone who understands, you don't appear to understand the contradictions. Anyway all truth comes out eventually. In this case though, I think it will just be an endless loop of disciples chasing their tails looking for "turbo's secret".
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Steve

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fossell

Apologies. I've not thoroughly read everything here but thought I'd share my opinion on Parx etc.
I've not had a lot of time recently but might have a pop at one of the other simulators everyone seems to be on about.

The argument about Parx seems a bit pointless. Its not really about getting to the top of the leaderboard. However getting there and staying there week after week is proof, if to nobody else, then to the person using it, that something they are doing keeps working.

The bonuses don't count towards your profit, but yes if you login and save up 100K and then start playing, you could get to the top very easily. But who cares. Its not about that. The bonuses or prizes don't themselves keep you winning or give you an edge.

Someone might start with 1K and get to 20K by the end of the week. Its the same value as someone starting with 10K and getting to 200K by the end of the week. No difference to me. Screw the leaderboard.

But if you're genuinely using it for testing and you keep repeating your results, then of course, your bankroll will have you showing higher on the board more easily and sooner.

Those measly bonuses really won't stop you losing it all very easily if you're not doing something right consistently. You might get lucky for a while, but those bonuses provide no edge and cant prop up a losing method for very long.


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