Latest discussion on repeaters(GF)

[DoctorSudoku]

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Rich,
I know you will never admit it publicly, but you do miss both Falkor and Mogul, don't you?

   

[Steve]

I tried banning Steve but It wont let me.
I tried putting him on moderated but it wont let me.
It cant stop me calling him a very naughty boy.

Steve, you are a very naughty boy.

I tried banning myself. The forum wont let me either. It's an outrage. I'm sending a strongly-worded email to myself.

[Steve]

Not a big surprise. Otherwise he wouldnt survive in online community after allegation of scamming from dozens of people.

Firstly Madi, I didnt remove the above post. Turner did. Probably because he knew it was a low stab. It's typical from someone losing a discussion.

Secondly, truth always eventually wins. It's easy to refute bullshit allegations on any forum (if the admin allows it).

The allegations start with morons who are blatantly lying usually because of some personal agenda. Or they are merely referring to the original lies, without understanding them.

For example, it's easy for someone like Ken (mrj) to cut and paste garbage. Because he lacks integrity, he doesnt care about the accuracy of the information. The truth doesn't suit his agenda.

As for me responding on other forums, again the truth is easy to establish, if the admin allows fair and open publishing of information. The last forum I didnt own where I was attacked, I ignored for some time. But eventually responded, and applied a simple forum hack and discovered the person attacking me at GF was the GF admin himself, trying to discourage people from posting here, to boost his quiet forum. The result was he moderated my posts - in particularly removing parts that proved he created an alias on his own forum to attack me. Then he lied and denied moderating, and added "compulsive liar" to my username. That's a an example of what happens when you reveal a lying admin for what he is, on his own forum. I knew he was in a corner, and wasn't going to admit what he did. I expected much this result.

In contrast, if you attack me on my own forum, I don't moderate it. I have nothing to hide, and prefer to openly refute rubbish so everyone can see. If you've been around for the past 10 or so years, you will know this. The old-timers around here would be sick to death of it.

So I wont get into detail about it again, unless you have a very specific allegation you'd like me to address. As you were very broad, I'll respond in kind by saying:

It's a load of shit. I have never scammed anyone. I'm very honest and have nothing to hide. Anyone with a brain can very easily determine if my technology is scam, at no risk to them. I offer ample simple options: for example, you can aim your webcam at a wheel and hear my computer's predictions via Skype. Or maybe see a public demo. There are many options. Knowing the truth is really simple. So the only people left claiming my technology is a scam are:

1. People who blatantly lie, because of an agenda (Like promoting their own products, or forum. Or perhaps they were banned from here),

2. Morons who don't think for themselves, and cut and paste the bullshit

3. Worse morons who cut and paste again. Often someone losing a discussion will cut and paste trash because it's easy, and they ran out of things to say.

Ultimately, in response to your bullshit claim, the truth is the truth, no matter where I publish it. On this forum or another. I do not censor allegations about me. I address them front-on because there's nothing to hide. My only concerns are more wasted time (everything has already been thoroughly addressed, and besides anyone can test my methods free), and members here are sick of hearing about it.

[Madi]

I thought i would write something but befroe me u got a reaponse. I only said allegation , people saying convicted.seriously?

Anyway in which casino in australia ur employees r playing?

[Steve]

Convicted of what?

20 years ago, almost a teenager, I said a stock would increase 900%+ in value because of pending positive news - based mostly on what the company directors told me personally. The government thought I was full of shit and just trying to boost price. And then later, after the company made the pending announcements, the price increased 1500%.

I was mostly correct. However, I misunderstood some of the company news, and made some inaccurate assumptions. The problem was I published those misunderstandings and got charged with recklessly making inaccurate statements. It's all at :.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com/rentech/ - it's very old news. I began from being a stock promoter where I was paid stock option to promote companies. That's what I did 20 years ago.

Nobody who bought the stock on my advice, and sold at the right time, lost money. They would have profited substantially. I was charged although I profited investors. I scammed nobody. It was a victimless crime.

But of course prosecutors and media made a misleading circus of it.

Anyone who wants to discredit me need only say "this guy went to jail for fraud". It's easy to say, and post a few links. But you wont find the truth that way. And it has nothing to do with my roulette technology.

Do you know how many times I've explained the same thing to new people who believe junk claims from people with an agenda? And in the end I say if anyone wants to know about my technology, they need only test my technology for free and see for themselves.

[Steve]

My partners dont play in Australia. Computers aren't legal here.

I have plenty of system players here, but they are not profit-split partners.

[Madi]

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I got no claim against u as i didnt buy anything from you. Its only ur buyer. I m not interested in ur business. I m only interested about ur moderation and want to see u in beings watch list like other people. No matter who started or what joke or real it was? U called someones wife a bitch and encouraging others to do rather than putting a moderation on u.

[Madi]

My partners dont play in Australia. Computers aren't legal here.

I have plenty of system players here, but they are not profit-split partners.

U r an international businessman then. Great to know that.

[holymoly]

We all know Aussies don't cheat...or lie.
It's just not cricket.

[Steve]

If you want to know more, see :.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com and read the WHOLE SITE, because the story is long and twisted. Although again, ultimately anyone can test my technology for free and see for themselves. It's simpler and more direct.

Regarding people who have actually purchased from me and claim my technology is a scam:

The majority of people are fabricated and don't actually exist. But there are a few people that do actually exist.

I have around 1,500 players, from the past 10 or so years. There are about 10 that claimed my technology "doesn't work" or is a scam.

Let's summarize the most relevant ones:


Vince Brandt

Full details:
link:s://:.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com/vince-brandt/

Summary:
Vince’s legal claim had NOTHING to do with the effectiveness of my system. Vince simply didn’t understand instructions to access my system’s software, so absurdly claimed it didn’t exist. Vince was extremely rude and vile in his emails to me, so I asked him to hire a mediator.  That way I didn’t need to put up with his abuse. So he did, and that’s what the case was. In the mediation, he couldn’t swear at me and I agreed to giving a refund. He never even used my system. Vince lost on all but one of his claims, so started another case, which was completely rejected by the judge. Bluntly, Vince was a dickhead and didn't read basic instructions and blamed me for it. The judge saw that, but I agreed to refunding because he never even used the software.



Tony Duhamel (Bago)

Full details:
link:s://:.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com/bago-tony-duhamel/
link:s://:.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com/results-of-my-challenge-to-bago/

Summary:
Tony is a young man from France who purchased my roulette computer, but never used it in a real casino because he was concerned about legalities. However, he profited $4000 from techniques I taught him. In his tests at home, he incorrectly used the computer and claimed he got “random predictions”. I conducted a live and recorded challenge with Tony to prove he was wrong. Tony then edited the recording and lied about the results, so I published the full unedited recording, and the true results which proved he was the problem, not the roulette computer. He has an ongoing vendetta against me.



Clothdog (forum member)

Summary:
Once claimed my system was a scam, but later changed his mind and published an apology. The inaccurate claims still remain on misleading websites as so-called evidence my system is a scam.

Full details:
link:s://:.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com/clothdogs-apology/


There are a few more, similar stories. But the vast majority of players know my technology is as I claim.

But with around 1,500 players over the years, a few are bound to not understand what they've purchased. It is easier for some people to blame the system for their mistakes and misunderstandings. A bad tradesman blames his tools.


Unfortunately, truly dumb people like Ken don't care about facts. They really want their perception to be reality, so they believe lies from other people with similarly little credibility, and publish it as if it were fact. Then even dumber people re-publish the bullshit as if it were fact. And that's why I say...
.. if anyone just wants to know if my technology works, make it simple -- just test it for yourself free. It's easier than making sense of 10 years of blatant lies and twisted information from people without a life.

[Steve]

I got no claim against u as i didnt buy anything from you. Its only ur buyer. I m not interested in ur business. I m only interested about ur moderation and want to see u in beings watch list like other people. No matter who started or what joke or real it was? U called someones wife a bitch and encouraging others to do rather than putting a moderation on u.

1. Then don't go around calling people a scammer. If anyone makes a similarly serious claim about someone, and I receive a complaint, I will ensure both sides have equal opportunity to present their case. It's part of running a balanced and productive forum.

2. Look at the context I called someone's wife a bitch. I don't think anyone besides you takes it seriously.

We all know Aussies don't cheat...or lie.
It's just not cricket.

Actually that's quite funny. Good one, despite being a bit in bad taste (if you understand all circumstances relating to me).

[Steve]

On another note, in the past 10 years I have dealt with some of the most incomprehensible dickheads imaginable. It has truly made me think, if this is a sample of the world's population, as a planet, we are all fucked. There are so many people with serious problems. I'm talking about everyone I've come to know in all aspects of my life, including on the forums. I mean wow. It's unjust that I have a tarnished reputation despite being one of the most honest and fair people around. But, I still smile when I consider how my life is, and how miserable people that attack me must be.

[holymoly]

We all know Aussies don't cheat...or lie.
It's just not cricket

Not having a dig at you Steve.


Don't feel the world is against you,all the time.


I'm not!

[Steve]

HM, dont get me wrong.

1. I'm aware most people dont give a shit.

2. I dont at all think the world is against me. I have a lot more friends that dipshits in my life.

3. From a business perspective, the people that matter do proper research. Nobody willing to invest hundreds of thousands relies on hearsay. Instead they do proper research, and well the reality suits me.

4. My primary concern in responding to rubbish is to set the record straight - so that for people that are interested can easily find the truth.

[Steve]

Regarding the aussie comment, of course I know its not a dig at me. I have a sense of humor too.

Its pretty bad what they did. It will be referred to for a long time.