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TURBO'S REPEATERS SIMULATION.

Started by daveylibra, Apr 01, 06:18 PM 2018

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The General

Improving Turbo's repeater (hot number method) on the live wheel for Euro players that want to gamble a bit.

1. Keep a subset of numbers for each spin direction.  This means you'll have one set of numbers for clockwise, and one set for counter clockwise spins.
2. Play as long as you can, provided that the wheel speeds and ball being used are similar. 
3. Increase bets as you win, not as you lose.  This way you can start at a higher unit bet and work down if losing, and up if winning...  or...If you want to make it wild ride, and take a higher risk shot... play the reverse Labby on the numbers.
4. When playing conditions change dramatically restart your tracking or wait for the conditions that were similar to your previous conditions to return.
5. Pay special attention to the numbers that hit because the ball short cut the center of the wheel to reach them.  Also pay special attention to the numbers that hit because the ball chased the number tape for a full revolution before falling in and landing.  Give these hot numbers priority over others.
6.  Play the dealers that spin the rotor (wheel) at a higher rate of speed.  Avoid slow rotors.







Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

vorchun

Hello jekhb76
If I may, I would advise you to take a break from the cycles of 37 and 74 spins and from the progressions.
If you want to understand the method of the Turbo, try to see the picture which is drawn by repetition through the cycles end long, but in General. Steve is right in saying that by analyzing the continuity of a statistically significant length we will see that all the numbers fell about the same number of times. But he does not mention one very important for understanding the Turbo method of the phenomenon, namely the presence of a dominant group of numbers throughout the above mentioned continuity. We are not talking about specific numbers, all numbers are equally likely, we are talking about a group of numbers. No wonder Turbo gave a figurative example with three horses and a race. Now it's up to the details that are no less important than the basis of the method. Below I will give a graph of the game based on my understanding of the Tg method. And sorry for my English)

jekhb76

111 spins played
Profit : â,¬442
Biggest Drawdown -â,¬57

jekhb76

Another Session.
148 spins played (3 cycles were bet)
Profit: â,¬576
Biggest Drawdown: -â,¬42

jekhb76

I played it this way.
When in debt after a cycle, i kept the chips on the hitted numbers, and took them to the next cycle of spins along with the 3peaters from last cycle, and removed the numbers that i've bet during the last cycle and didn't get a hit. this way we always stay between 5-9 numbers in play max.
I think we are on to something  :smile: :smile: who knows  :o

Lucky7Red

I think turbo can hide now  :thumbsup:
when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?

boyd30

Short test, not so successfull. Maybe I did something wrong.

jekhb76

Quote from: boyd30 on Apr 13, 03:02 PM 2018
Short test, not so successfull. Maybe I did something wrong.
Do you Have the spins Boyd? I can Have a look!

Nimo

Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 13, 11:01 AM 2018
:thumbsup:


NOTE:  To math guys, yes the odds are still 1/37 and random.  Betting repeaters gives you a random starting point and continuing to bet on them gives you additional random entry betting points.

Spin 1: 22 No bet
Spin 2: 8 No bet
Spin 3: 10 No bet
Spin 4: 14 No bet
Spin 5: 19 No bet
Spin 6: 36 No bet
Spin 7: 18 No Bet
Spin 8: 2 No bet
Spin 9: 3 No bet
Spin 10: 26 No Bet
Spin 11: 15 No Bet
Spin 12: 24 No Bet
Spin 13: 31 No bet
Spin 14: 36, Repeat...Bet 1 unit on 36
Spin 15: 23,  Continue Bet 1 Unit on 36
Sin 16: 0, Continue Bet 1 Unit on 36
Spin 17: 16, Continue Bet 1 unit on 36
Spin 18: 9 Continue Bet 1 unit on 36
Spin 19: 2, Repeat...Bet 1 unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2
Spin 20: 11, Continue Bet 1 Unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2
Spin 21: 0, Repeat...Bet 1 unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2, Bet 1 unit on 0
Spin 22: 11, Repeat...Bet 1 unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2, Bet 1 unit on 0, Bet 1 unit on 11
Spin 23: 27 Continue Bet 1 unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2, Bet 1 unit on 0, Bet 1 unit on 11
Spin 24: 26, Repeat...Bet 1 unit on 36, bet 1 unit on 2, Bet 1 unit on 0, Bet 1 unit on 11, Bet 1 unit on 26
Spin 25: 6, Continue bet 1 unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2, Bet 1 unit on 0, bet 1 unit on 11, Bet 1 unit on 26
Spin 26: 19 Repeat...Bet 2 units on 36, Bet 2 units on 2, Bet 2 units on 0, Bet 2 units on 11, Bet 2 units on 26, bet 2 units on 19
Spin 27: 23 Repeat...Bet 2 Units on 36, Bet 2 units on 2, Bet 2 units on 0, Bet 2 units on 11, Bet 2 units on 26, Bet 2 units on 19 bet 2 units on 23
Spin 28: 2 Win Profit + 16 units

Reset

May seem like a lot of text, it pretty basic, need to up progression to stay in profit as numbers are added (spin 26), can be done manually, I use a spreadsheet and update it per spin.  The above round took less than 2 minutes fast play mode RNG.  Just start a new spin cycle once you hit profit.  Some take less than 5 total spins, this one took 28 spins, with 14 spins of actual betting.  16 units may not seem like a lot, however with enough practice and speed works out to 300-500 units per hour. Hour after hour after hour.   Bankroll needed can be large once a certain amount have not shown for awhile, but still fall easily with table limits. 

If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

boyd30

Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 13, 03:29 PM 2018
Do you Have the spins Boyd? I can Have a look!

No, sorry I didn't save the spins. I will make another test and save the spins.

jekhb76

Quote from: boyd30 on Apr 13, 03:44 PM 2018
No, sorry I didn't save the spins. I will make another test and save the spins.
Ok

jekhb76

Quote from: Nimo on Apr 13, 03:37 PM 2018

NOTE:  To math guys, yes the odds are still 1/37 and random.  Betting repeaters gives you a random starting point and continuing to bet on them gives you additional random entry betting points.

Spin 1: 22 No bet
Spin 2: 8 No bet
Spin 3: 10 No bet
Spin 4: 14 No bet
Spin 5: 19 No bet
Spin 6: 36 No bet
Spin 7: 18 No Bet
Spin 8: 2 No bet
Spin 9: 3 No bet
Spin 10: 26 No Bet
Spin 11: 15 No Bet
Spin 12: 24 No Bet
Spin 13: 31 No bet
Spin 14: 36, Repeat...Bet 1 unit on 36
Spin 15: 23,  Continue Bet 1 Unit on 36
Sin 16: 0, Continue Bet 1 Unit on 36
Spin 17: 16, Continue Bet 1 unit on 36
Spin 18: 9 Continue Bet 1 unit on 36
Spin 19: 2, Repeat...Bet 1 unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2
Spin 20: 11, Continue Bet 1 Unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2
Spin 21: 0, Repeat...Bet 1 unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2, Bet 1 unit on 0
Spin 22: 11, Repeat...Bet 1 unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2, Bet 1 unit on 0, Bet 1 unit on 11
Spin 23: 27 Continue Bet 1 unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2, Bet 1 unit on 0, Bet 1 unit on 11
Spin 24: 26, Repeat...Bet 1 unit on 36, bet 1 unit on 2, Bet 1 unit on 0, Bet 1 unit on 11, Bet 1 unit on 26
Spin 25: 6, Continue bet 1 unit on 36, Bet 1 unit on 2, Bet 1 unit on 0, bet 1 unit on 11, Bet 1 unit on 26
Spin 26: 19 Repeat...Bet 2 units on 36, Bet 2 units on 2, Bet 2 units on 0, Bet 2 units on 11, Bet 2 units on 26, bet 2 units on 19
Spin 27: 23 Repeat...Bet 2 Units on 36, Bet 2 units on 2, Bet 2 units on 0, Bet 2 units on 11, Bet 2 units on 26, Bet 2 units on 19 bet 2 units on 23
Spin 28: 2 Win Profit + 16 units

Reset

May seem like a lot of text, it pretty basic, need to up progression to stay in profit as numbers are added (spin 26), can be done manually, I use a spreadsheet and update it per spin.  The above round took less than 2 minutes fast play mode RNG.  Just start a new spin cycle once you hit profit.  Some take less than 5 total spins, this one took 28 spins, with 14 spins of actual betting.  16 units may not seem like a lot, however with enough practice and speed works out to 300-500 units per hour. Hour after hour after hour.   Bankroll needed can be large once a certain amount have not shown for awhile, but still fall easily with table limits.
Can go real deep, if your unlucky!
This was my first session.
After 35 spins, +18
But it costed me 702 units to reach that. And only 12 repeaters were bet at the end with each 30 units on them. mmmm don't know if i got the nerves for that.

ozon

There are many approaches to Turbo methods,
I wrote it some time ago:

There is unfortunately a huge amount of unsaid things in Turbo strategy
Everyone can identify directions differently

A few days ago, I did simulations on the RX.
I wanted to see how extreme repeaters can behave.
I assumed that if in 37 spins cycle, we dont have a 3time repeater, it should show up very quickly, the assumption was that it should appear up to 42 spin
I used a short progression on all numbers that have hit 2 times. in 37 cycle.
1-1-2-3-5
Maybe my tests were too short, but quite quickly, I saw sessions where the first hit was only on the spin 48.

   And it probably is not a virtual limit

ozon

Think how you start the session playing repeaters and suddenly you do not have a hit to 48 spin.
I think that playing from 37 spin to 48 spin, somehow this drawdown would cover.
But in my opinion it is not a virtual limit and it can be much worse.

jekhb76

Quote from: ozon on Apr 13, 04:25 PM 2018
There are many approaches to Turbo methods,
I wrote it some time ago:

There is unfortunately a huge amount of unsaid things in Turbo strategy
Everyone can identify directions differently

A few days ago, I did simulations on the RX.
I wanted to see how extreme repeaters can behave.
I assumed that if in 37 spins cycle, we dont have a 3time repeater, it should show up very quickly, the assumption was that it should appear up to 42 spin
I used a short progression on all numbers that have hit 2 times. in 37 cycle.
1-1-2-3-5
Maybe my tests were too short, but quite quickly, I saw sessions where the first hit was only on the spin 48.

   And it probably is not a virtual limit
I understand, i once saw the first tripple on spin 52!!!! in theory, it can go up to spin 75 where we will see the first tripple. but this won't happen during our lifetime, but possible? yes!.
My method, can go as deep as 11 or 12 cycles of 37 spins, before there is a profit. but a profit is a profit. is it playable in a real BM casino? NO. Live dealer online, yes!
just needs more testing, and look what the best stop/loss is. maybe stop at +100 / -500 units. with a bank of 4000 units.
You just have to remember, that there will always be a time, when you have a profit. it is up to you when to stop. and how long you can play for that day. But i do think i have something good this time.  :wink: ^-^

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