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Rg

As usual, from you come only good tips, thx appreciated !

I am though interested to hear the baccaratbeaters troop, especially Andre Chas's, on how he's managing his winnings and avoiding detection

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Here are the facts.

Properties in Macau and Singapore, bet size of usd$1-2k per hand is normal in the public area. You get to see people win $20++k per session.

High rollers casino, usd$2-10k per hand. Normal to see members with $25k chip containers. Ofc there are the occasional higher bets.

About cellphones, not allowed near the tables.

If you use cheating electronic device you get banned. If you tresspass you go behind bars.

Surveillance is top notch. Just look up the ceiling for the eye in the sky that's everywhere except the restrooms.

I use to forget to take the cash from the casino atm, report and money returned to me within the day, that's how efficient. The same thing happened at the electronic table games, report to pitboss received a call one hour later to collect cash.
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Here are the facts.

Properties in Macau and Singapore, bet size of usd$1-2k per hand is normal in the public area. You get to see people win $20++k per session.

High rollers casino, usd$2-10k per hand. Normal to see members with $25k chip containers. Ofc there are the occasional higher bets.

About cellphones, not allowed near the tables.

If you use cheating electronic device you get banned. If you tresspass you go behind bars.

Surveillance is top notch. Just look up the ceiling for the eye in the sky that's everywhere except the restrooms.

I use to forget to take the cash from the casino atm, report and money returned to me within the day, that's how efficient. The same thing happened at the electronic table games, report to pitboss received a call one hour later to collect cash.

Cht, thx for the info.

Are you living in Singapore ?
I am in Europe, I have no idea how the EU casinos are run
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If andre is being truthful then winning what he wins wouldn’t get him banned

Guys please stop with the “being detected” paranoia.  It’s hog wash and I don’t know why Steve harps on it

People in my casino win big often. On airball

If you win 20k a day that might draw a flag but that’s stupid.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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If andre is being truthful then winning what he wins wouldn’t get him banned

Guys please stop with the “being detected” paranoia.  It’s hog wash and I don’t know why Steve harps on it

People in my casino win big often. On airball

If you win 20k a day that might draw a flag but that’s stupid.
I agree.

My casino buddies wins and lose millions among them. This win $x thousand a day you get ban is plain nonsense.

If you win big you will be invited to their VIP platinum club for whales.
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If andre is being truthful then winning what he wins wouldn’t get him banned

Guys please stop with the “being detected” paranoia.  It’s hog wash and I don’t know why Steve harps on it

People in my casino win big often. On airball

If you win 20k a day that might draw a flag but that’s stupid.

Rg, you really should change your avatar and put a picture of lion instead -:)

We are system players, better say routine platers, we play everyday, you can't compare us with your Chinese mates who play airball at your land based casino, they are there once a week or more...
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I thought the OT was about biased wheels, not about exposure to casino surveillance.
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I'm a VB and a bias player.  Have been since before people like RG were probably even born.

I'm not sure as to why some think I'm the international sales rep for biased wheel play or VB, as I am not.  I have nothing to sell anyone, and I'd rather leave most blissfully ignorant, rather than educate someone that doesn't even grasp basic probability.   Sometimes I get annoyed watching the new drivers attempting to drive with the parking brake still on, so I occasionally point out the stupid mistakes here and there.

Slot machines are a better opportunity for simpler people, and it's a great way for them to earn points for the buffet and three foot tall drinks.
 
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I probably have more experience with bannings, and gaming investigations than anyone here, and anyone you will ever meet on any forum.

1. Yes casinos ban people for winning.  It happens every day.
2. Most of you live in regions where you have no chance of ever becoming a consistent winner because you are required to have a club card just to get into the casino and to cash out any winnings.  These days, these cards are monitored via software and they alert the casino to players that are playing too far outside of expectation.  Meaning you will be plucked out, and banned if you're too many standard deviations away from the theoretical. 
3. You can win big if you're lucky, and lose big.  Many casinos love big action, and the want to feel that they have a real shot at winning all of your money.  Especially if you look fat, lazy, and rich.  However, if you're big win is too far outside of theoretical, then you're going to get heat.  Again, you can win a million as long as they think you will lose a million.  It's more about the theoretical than it is the dollar amount.
4. Casino pit bosses, and dealers actually know very little about the games they over see.  Casino shift managers, and surveillance rely on risk consultants and former APs to educate them at conferences and consulting firms to learn of the latest risks.  Many consultants are failed APs or ones that became to lazy to travel.
5. You can't win consistently playing online.  Software similar to club card software will pluck you out, freeze your account, and attempt to keep your money.  Online gaming is reserved for addicted gamblers and the simple minded.  The only exception is for poker.   

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When did this become a slot machine promotion forum

Am I missing something? Anyone, anyone?
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All this bullshit talk about banning winners of a couple of thousands.

The real regular folks that play at properties in Macau and Singapore will laugh reading this bs.

Or is this the case in UK and US casinos ?

Any regulars tells us what's up in the casinos there ?
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Yes Macau and Singapore ban people as well.  People are banned from bj, bac, roulette, and believe it or not, even slots.
Yes, I know the last one, slots, is probably blowing your mind right now.
Do you know why slots is one hell of a threat to them right now?  There's a very real reason behind it.  (And NO I'm not a sales rep for people wanting to play slots. )
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Yes Macau and Singapore ban people as well.  People are banned from bj, bac, roulette, and believe it or not, even slots.
Yes, I know the last one, slots, is probably blowing your mind right now.
Do you know why slots is one hell of a threat to them right now?  There's a very real reason behind it.  (And NO I'm not a sales rep for people wanting to play slots. )
Hi General,
you not referring to the Aristocrat saga with the Russians?


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Many casinos love big action, and the want to feel that they have a real shot at winning all of your money.  Especially if you look fat, lazy, and rich.

Yeah, these three characters (fat, lazy and rich) apply to the majority here, including yourself


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Yes Macau and Singapore ban people as well.  People are banned from bj, bac, roulette, and believe it or not, even slots.
Yes, I know the last one, slots, is probably blowing your mind right now.
Do you know why slots is one hell of a threat to them right now?  There's a very real reason behind it.  (And NO I'm not a sales rep for people wanting to play slots. )

Basically YES.  The Russians, and several other teams like them currently represent the biggest risk there is, and the casinos don't have a fix for it.

Cht,

The gaming world is much bigger than the little bubble world on these forums.  If you want to really know what's going on you need to listen to what the gaming attorneys are saying.  You need to follow what the risk consultants are writing, etc... 
In this world, AP gambler's are getting banned, civil/player's rights are often violated,  the gaming world is often predatory, and isn't always fair.
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