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37 back to basics

Started by 6th-sense, Jun 09, 02:29 PM 2018

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RayManZ

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Mar 22, 11:52 AM 2023No!  Look at my post from before with the image. Once you know how to use the dependencythen the opposite pairs help solve the rest. You can see the wins and will stay ahead but you wont always get 100%. To make it bulletproof you have to create the same game but with a stitched bet.  At this point you would know how to do it or atleast have an idea of how to do it.

About dependency

what does this looks like? A street has a dependency with a line? because a line contains 2 streets? Sometimes its really hard to understand the meaning of words as someone who doesnt speak english as first language.

Person S

Perhaps the concept of dependencies makes balance a guaranteed state. At the beginning, there is no balance, in the middle we are approaching it, and at the end of the cycle, the balance is already created automatically due to dependencies.
On the other hand, if you look at the tracker, then there are no dependencies, but simple mechanics that also include this balance.

MoneyT101

Quote from: RayManZ on Mar 22, 12:23 PM 2023About dependency

what does this looks like? A street has a dependency with a line? because a line contains 2 streets? Sometimes its really hard to understand the meaning of words as someone who doesnt speak english as first language.


Two events are dependent when the outcome of the first event influences the outcome of the second event.

Events which are mutually exclusive are dependent events. This is because if one event happens, it affects the probability that the other event will happen

Possible Dependent events shared before
-Defining dozens
-vdw
- repeat happens in the low derived set( most recent numbers)
- and finally the one you shared above, line repeat could mean street repeat

Are there more?
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

MoneyT101

Just go back and read CarpeDiem message a couple of times and then read my recent post. It's there!  Yea there are riddles but also the info is there without riddles in plain sight.

If you can't figure it out.  Then just read his message and think for yourself.  Ask yourself questions.

Forget winning at roulette

What's the problem you are trying to solve?

Why can't you solve it?

What would make it work in a perfect world?

Can you create an artificial perfect world?

You want answers to questions you aren't asking! If you can't think of the right questions then just staring at info and trying things will not help you!

You have to think it and create it.  It doesn't just happen and work.  You choose to make it work.

You see the result! You see how to get to it! You see how to make it better. 

Go back to the beginning if you have to.  Why does a repeat happen from the most recent number. 37 numbers and repeat comes from the last 18 numbers

WHY?

Why is the repeat not coming from 19 numbers before or 28 numbers before ?  Why is it from last 18 numbers at such a high rate?
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

d80

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Mar 21, 08:55 PM 2023Balance state = beginning of new cycle

Money when you said "Balance state = beginning of new cycle" it mean at any end cycle will have a profit at roulette? or it can have new cycles without still a new high at bankroll?





MoneyT101

Quote from: d80 on Mar 23, 03:57 AM 2023Money when you said "Balance state = beginning of new cycle" it mean at any end cycle will have a profit at roulette? or it can have new cycles without still a new high at bankroll?

When a cycle ends, it's over!  Any loss or wins has nothing to do with the next cycle. So within the cycle all decisions/bets placed come to end. When a cycle is over you are either in profit or small loss.


To give you only an example you could win $1-$3 every cycle profit and lose $1 on a loss.  In the long run you accumulate more wins then losses.

Example of a cycle with 5 unique straight numbers

30
26
23
6
22
26

Any bets placed from 30-22 come to end when 26 repeats.  You should be at a profit or small loss.  You can't carry over this loss/win to the next cycle. Next cycle will have its own decisions and length and you have to start fresh. 
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

MoneyT101

Maybe this will help...

Now the reason why you can't carry a loss over to the next cycle is because it's a form of flatbet.   

Example 1: I bet $10

I can have $2 on high
I can have $3 on lines 2/3/4
I can have $3 on even
I can have $2 on split 25/28 15/18

Example 2: I bet $10

I can have $2 on low
I can have $3 on streets 3/6/8
I can have $2 on even
I can have $3 on straight 12 35 30

Now this is only an example.  I didn't share any secret within it. Both bets placed were $10 total.  Depending on what happens you will have won/loss different amounts.

You always bet the same amount.  But the amount shifts between numbers/groups based on the cycle.

At the end of the cycle you are either in profit or small loss.   But you should win more then you lose! So the $10 each bet for 36 spins will give you a profit or a small loss.


It doesn't matter you placed $10x36 times... in the end you will be in profit or small loss.

Now if you take it to the next level you can avoid this loss altogether and be in profit or break even


Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Irish88

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Mar 23, 08:27 AM 2023When a cycle ends, it's over!  Any loss or wins has nothing to do with the next cycle. So within the cycle all decisions/bets placed come to end. When a cycle is over you are either in profit or small loss.


To give you only an example you could win $1-$3 every cycle profit and lose $1 on a loss.  In the long run you accumulate more wins then losses.

Example of a cycle with 5 unique straight numbers

30
26
23
6
22
26

Any bets placed from 30-22 come to end when 26 repeats.  You should be at a profit or small loss.  You can't carry over this loss/win to the next cycle. Next cycle will have its own decisions and length and you have to start fresh. 


Ok a repeat happened and the previous cycle is over. A new cycle begins.

Would you start from spin 26(the one that just hit), only one number.  Or would you incorporate 23,6 and 22.

MoneyT101

Quote from: Irish88 on Mar 23, 09:02 AM 2023Would you start from spin 26(the one that just hit), only one number.  Or would you incorporate 23,6 and 22.

Until you get the hang of things it's best to start with 26.  Once you understand you can backtrack until before the last repeat. Whatever is more comfortable for you. 
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

MoneyT101

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Mar 23, 08:52 AM 2023Example 1: I bet $10

I can have $2 on high
I can have $3 on lines 2/3/4
I can have $3 on even
I can have $2 on split 25/28 15/18

How much would I have won if 18 hit?


Quote from: MoneyT101 on Mar 23, 08:52 AM 2023Example 2: I bet $10

I can have $2 on low
I can have $3 on streets 3/6/8
I can have $2 on even
I can have $3 on straight 12 35 30

How much would I have won if 12 hit?
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

donik7777

In first example with #18 you will win
54 units

Ds 3x5=15
Even 3×1= 3
Split 15/18 2×18=36

MoneyT101

Let's bring back some old post from the man, the myth himself

All spins in roulette are seperate events and are not connnected.

TRUE.

However, as there are 37 seperate numbers, in a run of 38 consecutive numbers, at LEAST one of the 37 numbers MUST repeat a minimum of one time.

 GUARANTEED !


This principle is irrefutable and does not depend on probability, luck, trigger events, law of a third, hot/cold numbers, pattern recognition, physical laws, or some obscure scientific theory. It's just BASIC maths.


I use FLAT BETS. (Progressions pave the road to Hell).
I SOMETIMES cover ALL numbers.
I ALWAYS cover SOME numbers
. .
I treat all numbers the same (including the zero).
No individual roulette number has greater or lesser significance to me than any other. I dont discriminate (hint, hint) !


You're correct. I win at least once within every 38 spin cycle. 100% guaranteed. I don't win each spin, like you said, the win cycle more than covers the losing spins.


"As u state in every cycle of 38 spins 1 repeater has to come. But if u only have one win u cannot profit, without progression. "


My point is I don't need to, as predicting the number spun is not a prerequisite for my system winning a 38 spin cycle.

It's not a crack in that sense, like a software crack. . just a solution to the problem of how do you secure a win regardless of sequence of numbers

My system doesn't wait for an event. It is a PRINCIPLED idea. No sequence of possible spins can change this principle. Try to understand. I just keep going, every 38 spin cycle is a winner. I enter all the bets manually, so its a little tedious, but more satisfying when I win. If the RNG "sends an extra Zero", that would be a repeat of the zero. I told you I treat all the numbers the same, including zero. A repeat is a repeat, regardless of the l number repeating.

What's confusing everyone is that you are all a$$uming that I bet 1 unit on 37 numbers.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

MoneyT101

Quote from: donik7777 on Mar 23, 10:06 AM 2023In first example with #18 you will win
54 units

Ds 3x5=15
Even 3×1= 3
Split 15/18 2×18=36

That's wrong

$3 on 3 ds means it's $1 each ds
$2 on two splits it's $1 each split
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Rond1nell1x

Thanks MoneyT101, for the answer and for showing us new tips and approaches about the game.

Cheers!
"We don't have to be smarter than the rest. We have to be more disciplined than the rest."
— Warren Buffett

Irish88

Thanks Money T, may I ask if you must play other games has been said. Can this work playing straight up numbers to must you play all types? As indicated in your example.

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