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37 back to basics

Started by 6th-sense, Jun 09, 02:29 PM 2018

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Blood Angel


Ricky

Quote from: Blood Angel on Jun 12, 04:27 PM 2018
Thank you.
Apologies, But recorded a 156 spin cycle from Online Casino.
Gordon, that idea I had for staking strategy just worked with this scenario. But I am sure it can be optimized by the members here to find a better strategy.

The idea here is to look at each cycle
Cycle 1 1-37 spins                Track
Cycle 2 38-74 spins              Bet 1 unit on Doubles and 2 units on Triples/Quads. Add 3 units on each hit of a Double/Quad. Place 1 unit on Single to make Double
Cycle 3 75-111 spins           Drop all Singles/Doubles, put 1 Unit on all Doubles to make Triples. Add 3 units on all Triples+ to make Quads+.       
Cycle 4 112-148 spins        Drop all Doubles/Triples. Put 1 Unit on Triples to make Quads. Add 3 units on Quads+ to make 5peaters+

Hopefully someone can come up with better MM and stoploss rules

Cheers,
Ricky.


ZERO

Quote from: Ricky on Jun 12, 12:25 PM 2018
Hi Zero,
The way I see it, if you want to spend 20 minutes waiting for the first 20 nums to come out before even starting to place a bet based on the repeats, singles and non hits you can start tracking as soon as you sit down. But in my opinion the 20+ history that gives you the past can also be used to save you time but still get a sense of what random is doing on the wheel. Its still part of the wheel's history and will be the same as if you were sitting there watching the numbers pass. So your strategy should not change. If it is as good one you should get similar results. But you will be playing a different set of numbers most likely than if you started tracking as soon as you sat down and will obviously get different results good or bad.

The following two charts were taken last night. I entered them from the history and then continued tracking them as they came out. It took me around an hour to get the results.

Cheers,
Ricky

Thanks for the explanation Ricky!  :thumbsup:

I think I get it now, basically the idea is that certain things will almost always happen within a 35/36/37 spin cycle no matter where we start our cycle from...

jekhb76

Quote from: ZERO on Jun 13, 04:33 AM 2018
Thanks for the explanation Ricky!  :thumbsup:

I think I get it now, basically the idea is that certain things will almost always happen within a 35/36/37 spin cycle no matter where we start our cycle from...
Basicly if you wanna try to catch 3peaters, you need to know on what spin average they come. Most of the Time after 2-4 repeaters are out and between spin 18-37. So you can start betting once you Have 2 repeaters or at spin 18.
Very rarely a 3 peat Will come before that. It happens now and then, but mist of the Time after spin 18.

nottophammer

Quote from: ZERO on Jun 13, 04:33 AM 2018I think I get it now, basically the idea is that certain things will almost always happen within a 35/36/37 spin cycle no matter where we start our cycle from...
You see it now ?
What have i been showing for the last umpteen posts.
Here it's 37 spins.
I work on 40/60 spins and that average of 15 non-hits in spins 11-40 happens on MPR, R-sim, J247 and Random .org

How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

6th-sense

Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 13, 06:16 AM 2018
You see it now ?
What have i been showing for the last umpteen posts.
Here it's 37 spins.
I work on 40/60 spins and that average of 15 non-hits in spins 11-40 happens on MPR, R-sim, J247 and Random .org


Lol Rik that made me chuckle
Because you have too but not many listens
I’m only showing basics members
Should look at hard at what I’m showing and even harder at your stuff and figure something out


jekhb76

I guess i maybe a little too much ahead with this, but it can make you all think and see how a spin cycle can turn out, and how to take advantage of things. A play session should never be more then 111 spins! that's 3 cycles. Between 1 and 1.5 hour of playtime in a real BM casino. From personal experience, i've came to the conclusion that the longer you play there, the more unconcetrate
you will be. so limit yourself for max 2 hours at your local BM, including a break.

Here you have a typical 111 playsession.
You can see how the numbers evolve and maybe see what should be done, to make sure that you will always leave in profit after 111 spins. that's the ultimate goal everyday. you should also take in consideration, how much profit is enough. When you have a workday, how much do you make per hour? between 10-15 dollar/euro i guess. So when you have a 111 spin session at your lolac bm, we quite once we have around 15-20 dollar/euro. then we go home. when your bank grows and you have a secure bet, and you know beforehand that your session will always end up in profit (turbo's way) then you can raise your basebet. but we start wit a normal amount of 15-20 euro. personaly i find that a good income for 1 to 1,5 hour of play to start with.

so here is your typical 111 play session. What can we make out of this? And more important, how to profit everytime we play!
Have fun  ;)

(spin 0-37)
25 numbers out
12 numbers unhit
15 singles
8 doubles
2 tripples

(spin 38-74)
33 numbers out
4 numbers unhit
12 singles
9 doubles
6 tripples
4 quadrupples
2 quintuples

(spin 75-111)
36 numbers out
1 unhit number
5 singles
11 doubles
6 tripples
8 quadruples (4s)
3 quintuples (5s)
2 sextuples  (6s)
1 septuble   (7s)

jekhb76

Let's look at the unhit (sleepers) numbers First.
What do you think Will be the best Time to bet these (if you would) ?
Right, the best hiratio would be between 12 and 6 unhit numbers.
Try test it yourself. Start betting as soon as you Have 12 numbers unhit. When hit, remove that number from your list. Now look if you are in profit or not. If not raise the other numbers by 1 unit. Do this check after each hit. Plus, rebet All to 1 unit. Min. All raise by 1 unit. Trust me the hits Will come.
Do this until you Have 6 unhit numbers left.
Will post a chart later on. If you All follow me, next up sometime this week Will be focusing on singles. Test, test.  :thumbsup:

ZERO

Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 13, 06:16 AM 2018
You see it now ?
What have i been showing for the last umpteen posts.

Been watching... & listening... to the last umpteen posts, but I was under the impression you were curve fitting as SOME might suggest...  :xd:

jekhb76

Quote from: ZERO on Jun 13, 11:26 AM 2018
Been watching... & listening... to the last umpteen posts, but I was under the impression you were curve fitting as SOME might suggest...  :xd:
No he is not, i can asure you, he knows what he is talking about.

Scarface

6thsense, thanks for this post.  Very informative and gives lots to think about.  Balance is the key for a stable game.  I like the idea of playing splits between repeaters and its cold number neighbor

6th-sense

Quote from: Scarface on Jun 13, 12:25 PM 2018
6thsense, thanks for this post.  Very informative and gives lots to think about.  Balance is the key for a stable game.  I like the idea of playing splits between repeaters and its cold number neighbor

Your welcome...Ricky and eddy have come up with there  betting ideas..now Vaddis has his own interpretation...
Do you think his eight numbers out and dropping one and replacing with newest one is for a reason?
Do you think he was sort of ..let’s say spreading them one hits out?
Remember the pairing chart?

Just want you all to think about that as an example
I’m not saying he is but just want you all to think ahead

jekhb76

I think Game can be beaten only with a good Bankroll and playing on numbers under right conditions taking advantage of Law of 3rd and Cycle varitions.

jekhb76

 Tell me, what do you see?

11
6
26
34
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13
7
27
31
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24
9
22
1
----
6
33
14
36
----
32
12
22
8
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3
36
1
30
----
10
0
22
35
----
32
30
4
12
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8
10
16
12
----
29
25
32
34
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11
30
19
27
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20
21
15
8
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27
7
27
1
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19
31
33
4
----
17
6
16
8
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25
10
1
10
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2
22
1
34
----
0
6
33
8
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12
20
29
9
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10
5
20
17
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13
12
3
9
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9
26
16
34
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2
6
28
30
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8
29
24
13
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22
5
15
8
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30
20
23
4
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1
1
6
30
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5
29
31

boyd30

Quote from: jekhb76 on Jun 14, 04:42 AM 2018
Tell me, what do you see?

11
6
26
34
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13
7
27
31
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24
9
22
1
----
6
33
14
36
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32
12
22
8
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3
36
1
30
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10
0
22
35
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32
30
4
12
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8
10
16
12
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29
25
32
34
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11
30
19
27
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20
21
15
8
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27
7
27
1
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19
31
33
4
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17
6
16
8
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25
10
1
10
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2
22
1
34
----
0
6
33
8
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12
20
29
9
----
10
5
20
17
----
13
12
3
9
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9
26
16
34
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2
6
28
30
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8
29
24
13
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22
5
15
8
----
30
20
23
4
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1
1
6
30
----
5
29
31

Many repeaters and numbers hitting beside every fourth. This was a bit more lucky session för that, I guess.

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