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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 29, 12:13 PM 2018
Unfortunately, it broke even after 1 million spins. I tried using the position result as the first spin and played to a fixed template every time - or I waited till the pos matched the same as the main spin - still it broke even.

Why in the world would you do that?   You need to beat a finite game before you bother running 1 million 'spins'

If you can't get a profit or break even in your 'game' then don't bother testing further.

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 29, 12:19 PM 2018

Prove it. Please show me.

Simply because numbers are not correlated!

You cant create a solid rappresentation or model of concept for a series that has no correlation!

I studied mathematics at the university and talked to professors exstensively and i reviewed the history !

Still not convinced?
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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 29, 12:31 PM 2018

Could care less what the wheel complies with.



When your bank roll vaporizes away in front of your eyes and you are helpless to do anything about it, you will.

 :thumbsup:   :thumbsup:
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 29, 01:18 PM 2018
Why in the world would you do that?   You need to beat a finite game before you bother running 1 million 'spins'

If you can't get a profit or break even in your 'game' then don't bother testing further.
I understand what you're saying, but there's no reason why 1 million spins would not be effected from individual biased bets - individual games notwithstanding - unless you can explain.

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Simply because numbers are not correlated!

You cant create a solid rappresentation or model of concept for a series that has no correlation!

I studied mathematics at the university and talked to professors exstensively and i reviewed the history !

Still not convinced?
Well, there's a few things still to explore. Non-Random adds structure/consistent stats to a break even game that usually has different stats per dataset. Nobody has explained why some playing positions are better than others in terms of delaying the house edge when chasing losses. If you take the position of the position of any stream you can some very regular patterns. There is also fractals to consider and, lastly, repeats that guarantee an empty pigeonhole.

I believe the structure/stats is the key thing here. My next test is to track cycles (independent) alongside multiple repeats to see if it can produce bias.

"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 29, 01:51 PM 2018
Correction: I meant delaying house LIMITS when chasing losses repeats
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 29, 02:24 PM 2018

When your bank roll vaporizes away in front of your eyes and you are helpless to do anything about it, you will.

 :thumbsup:   :thumbsup:

If I needed a wheel, I may be concerned.  Thanks for the warning.

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 29, 02:29 PM 2018
Simply because numbers are not correlated!

You cant create a solid rappresentation or model of concept for a series that has no correlation!

I studied mathematics at the university and talked to professors exstensively and i reviewed the history !

Still not convinced?

Good luck, sounds like you've already made up your mind.  If not, some light reading here... https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16972.0

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 29, 03:05 PM 2018
I studied mathematics at the university and talked to professors exstensively and i reviewed the history !
Recently you were engineer, now you studied math   :twisted:

Still not convinced?

No !

Maybe you studied Maths, but it didn't help.


Next answer: Thank you, the same to you.

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 29, 03:09 PM 2018
Oh yes, engineers have to study lots of mathematics.

I think I answered too early

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 29, 03:15 PM 2018
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No !

Maybe you studied Maths, but it didn't help.

 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:...very good one
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 30, 12:49 PM 2018
This Roulette game is sure strange... I tested Cycles + variance stats and they are completely independent in terms of individual spins and even collections of spins. There's no such things as "extremes" that are due to recover or anything. There is no vertical post-processing that is any less random than horizontal. All kinds of crazy non-random games just break even.

However, what remains is some strange phenomena regarding repeats and pigeonhole principle - tied to mixing and matching probabilities and payout odds. We do have the ability to rejig the game of "what's the latest we can expect a repeat or just a win in fact?". Up until now the only way this game has been played is through numbers up to spin 25. Hermes had 6x6 Double Streets - but a deadlock would kill that strategy.

Right now the best we've got is my Quadruplets framework because of the one empty pigeonhole with a set of only 10 uniques. We've seen that there's 2 types of parachuting: HL > Dozens > Lines > Streets, etc as well as the number of bets per game. For example, there's 2 ways of betting CL2: 1 bet or 2 bets. We can parachute with less bets for more profit or we can parachute with more stitching for more profit.

Somebody once told me something about positions... it's not the usual crap about repeats happening during last 18 - because the initial tracking point for that cannot be determined and without it the rule doesn't apply. No, somebody told me that position 1 is a reset point for a new session. We saw that repeats give keyframes for stable stats, but what keyframe does position 1 provide?

I think the answer might soon come from my Quadruplets strategy. If we don't get a position 1 we can carry over the last few unique cycles and keep pushing towards CL9. The closer we get to CL9 without a position 1 the more we can start getting guaranteed wins at a more frequent rate.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 30, 05:24 PM 2018
Then I guess it doesn’t make sense to explore further.

Quadruplets it is.  Good luck.

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 30, 07:36 PM 2018
I was thinking that it might be possible to convert a repeat into a unique and reach a point of equilibrium where every cycle becomes a winning one.

1231... convert to 231
231454... convert to 23154
231549788... convert to 23154978
231549786... now bet those 9 quadruplets on a rolling basis for ever more! Option 10 should not come in before older ones have dropped off.
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Re: Crazy talk.
Jun 30, 08:36 PM 2018
Let’s get back to simplicity. 

Something like FTL.

First bet, High or Low.

On a W, what can we do with the Dozens?

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Re: Crazy talk.
Jul 01, 02:07 AM 2018
Let’s get back to simplicity. 

Something like FTL.

First bet, High or Low.

On a W, what can we do with the Dozens?
I've been through that already... the break even cannot be tilted just by playing your own game. I've tested for years. It must need another extreme concept like what I mentioned last post. And I think every session needs to be won - a bit like what you said earlier - but then there's no victory possible through flat-betting. So I think it does comes down to the individual biased bets, but then we need to somehow trap random in the corner.
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