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searching system for test in longrun, betting system simulator

Started by houseworx, Jul 01, 07:14 AM 2018

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houseworx

Hey all people, im new here.

first of all, im not playing roulette at all, im poker player for living.

but searching and working and trying for another game betting system, now if thinked and want to communicate with roulette players to test some kind of "roulette betting systems" in my other game of chance, i can test it for million of rolls in real play, and even 100 millions in simulations.

what im searching? betting system for any kind of winning percentage/payout from 990x 0.1% till 1.1x 90%(but in first case higher chances like 49.50% 2x, 33% 3x, 24.75% 4x, etc. because for smaller chances variance is b*tch :xd:

search system for even 100 000 or 1 000 000 unit bankroll managment.

i can made allmoust anything i want, i can bet zero till win, i can change low/high, i can change winning percentage every bet, even can wait till X losing streak for X chances, etc.

betting system what doest not gives immediatly profit and dont "fight" to profit in every second bet, but what will be +EV in the longrun in provably fair game, and made profit little bit below 100%

so if you have some kind if thinking please contact me, or write better to start here.

how much i see from roulette we can start from here

-Straight (1 number): 2.75%
- Split (2 numbers): 5.5%
- Street (3 numbers): 8.25%
- Square (4 numbers): 11%
- Six Line (6 numbers): 16.5%
- Colours (18 numbers): 49.50%
- Dozens (12 Numbers): 33%
- Highs / Lows (1-18 or 19-36): 49.50%
- Odds/Evens (18 numbers): 49.50%
- 10 Columns (12 numbers): 33%



houseworx


ahlidap

There are a ton of systems here.. why asking?
But.. for what you want, I recommend you the  roulette30 forum. There are some guys there o test things extensively !

;)

houseworx


last year what im testing anything iv figured out and made script for 0.99% play (100x payout) who is "theoretically" profiting in longrun(if luck will be 98-99% all time) with 100k/1 bankroll managment, but problem is that on 0.99% chance, swings and variance is huge, there 100 000 bets where luck is not even around 97% is not rare... and then comes big break even streches what means its betting 24/7 for 0(BE) profit, and then maybe 10k hands where little bit upswing and luck ir more than 100% (104% like sample) and then again break even.

so im searching and want to test your guys bet progressions, what are "valid with some kind of clue"

like sample, from TurboGenius progressions(what is sh*t) we play on 33% 2:1 payout(dozen in roulette) progression for 8 bets in row.
5 5
15 15
45 45
135 135
why its sh*t? because streak of 8 loses in row occures more freqvent than we can get back profit, for math something like we end up every 8losing streak with given betsizes in next ~80bets, but streak of 8loses in row is every ~50bets so we cannot end of anything of it in profit in longrun :)

houseworx

Quote from: ahlidap on Jul 10, 12:37 PM 2018
There are a ton of systems here.. why asking?
But.. for what you want, I recommend you the  roulette30 forum. There are some guys there o test things extensively !

;)
thanks for reply, i will check this roulette30 forum ;)

asking, because im not roulette player, and yes there is 1001 progressions, roulette is not my "plot" so im trying to avoid some kind of mistakes and time, to find what somewhere in this forum are given, i think friendly regular forums users can help me with that, or some regular roulette player who are playing it for livin(if there is that kind of possibility at all)

houseworx

how long streaks are your records in roulette on each win percentage?!
like 2x payout - 30streak?
like 3x payout is 50streak?
like split 18x payout is 300streak?

houseworx

BTW, im searhcing someone who can teach me- how to calculate propability of loosing streak in row, for certain winning percentage manually.

houseworx

like sample:

we play on 5% winning chance, how frequent I will get two wins in row, and how many times three times in row?!

number are two times in row something like around ~450bets, and three times is general 1 time in 10k bets(~10x times in 100k)

but i want to learn how to calcualte it from given numbers! :)


Bigbroben

Quote from: houseworx on Jul 15, 12:12 PM 2018
like sample:

we play on 5% winning chance, how frequent I will get two wins in row, and how many times three times in row?!

number are two times in row something like around ~450bets, and three times is general 1 time in 10k bets(~10x times in 100k)

but i want to learn how to calcualte it from given numbers! :)

It's about probabilities.

Ok, 5% chances, 2 in row:
5/100 x 5/100 = 5x5/100x100= 25/10000 or 0,25/100

3 in row: 5%^3 (exp.3)  5/100 x 5/100 x 5/100 = 5x5x5/100x100x100=125/1000000 or 0,0125./100

0,0125/100 doesn't tell much.

You want to know 1 in how many times it will happen?  Go Exp-1.  or reverse the nrs from one side of the dash to the other.
0,0125% = 1 in 100/0,0125 or 1 in 8000.

Capisci?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Bigbroben

Or ask the General, he'll copy/paste you detailed documentation.....
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

houseworx

Quote from: Bigbroben on Jul 15, 12:23 PM 2018
It's about probabilities.

Ok, 5% chances, 2 in row:
5/100 x 5/100 = 5x5/100x100= 25/10000 or 0,25/100

3 in row: 5%^3 (exp.3)  5/100 x 5/100 x 5/100 = 5x5x5/100x100x100=125/1000000 or 0,0125./100

0,0125/100 doesn't tell much.

You want to know 1 in how many times it will happen?  Go Exp-1.  or reverse the nrs from one side of the dash to the other.
0,0125% = 1 in 100/0,0125 or 1 in 8000.

Capisci?
thanks you very much, yes your calculated numbers seen very close to my vision ;)

2 in row = 1 time in every 400
3 in row = 1 time in every 8000

:)


maybe you know something about worst possible deviation calculations for certain percentage, like yes we need to get every 1x 3 winning streak in every 8000bets, but how much in worst case they can not be?! from my vision its calculated numbers x 5 = worst possible streak iv ever had, what you can say about that?! :)

it means worst scenario 2000 bets for 2 wins in row on 5% and 40000 bets for 3 wins in row on 5%(iv get only 30 for 3 in row)

Bigbroben

Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

houseworx

Quote from: Bigbroben on Jul 15, 02:09 PM 2018
Theory, sky is the limit...

this is overdue ;)

theory and practice says that, you cant play 4000 bets without two wins in row on 5% or without 2loses in row on 95%. IMO! but my records is only 2,2-2,5k bets

and for one win is 400 reds in row max, and for 3 wins in row max is 40k bets...

im intreseted in any big deviation from "normal" screenshots in any casino and games! :)

i mean big is 30+ on 2x payout (~50%)
150+ on 10x payout
300+ on 20x payout

etc. all are welcome to communicate :)

houseworx

Quote from: Bigbroben on Jul 15, 12:23 PM 2018
It's about probabilities.

Ok, 5% chances, 2 in row:
5/100 x 5/100 = 5x5/100x100= 25/10000 or 0,25/100

3 in row: 5%^3 (exp.3)  5/100 x 5/100 x 5/100 = 5x5x5/100x100x100=125/1000000 or 0,0125./100

0,0125/100 doesn't tell much.

You want to know 1 in how many times it will happen?  Go Exp-1.  or reverse the nrs from one side of the dash to the other.
0,0125% = 1 in 100/0,0125 or 1 in 8000.

Capisci?

BigBroben, mate!

you have clue how to calcualte, how often can be that kind of scenario?!

6 wins in row, 1=9%, 2=9%, 3=19.80%, 4=24.75%, 5=33%, 6=49,50% how often this winning streak can appear?!

thanks, maybe anyone else can answer on that to?! :)

Herby

Quote from: houseworx on Oct 27, 04:22 AM 2018
6 wins in row, 1=9%, 2=9%, 3=19.80%, 4=24.75%, 5=33%, 6=49,50% how often this winning streak can appear?!

9/100*9/100*19.8/100*24.75/100*33/100*49.5/100 = 0.0000648402

means  ~ 6 times in 100.000 tries


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