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#### nottophammer

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##### Non-hit time table
Think what Turo said, he had a time machine, ok at present a time machine don't exist.
But let’s travel back in time in this imaginary machine to when the 1st single zero wheels where introduced.

Okay, this wheel is indestructible, so no bias, so that’s the general f*****, don’t want to hear about pads, frets you name it general this wheel is indestructible, plays perfect.

But there’s a keeper of spins.
So let’s say for the last 2 to 300 years every spin has been recorded, each keeper has handed over the recorder.
Now we get some believe it’s 1/37 spin and that we’d see 37/37 in this time, but as this info is not available from the forum’s two most disbelievers of any system passing millions of spins, so meaning failure.
But what if when you start to play, let’s say you’ll have 148 spins and the keepers records show that the 11th non-hit hits within 2 spins on average and in fact all the non-hit up to the 19th non-hit average to hit in 2 spins.
What would the maximum spins be for the 11th non-hit too hit? If say the keeper’s records showed say from 58 games of 148 spins that the maximum spins was 4 spins.
So the 58 *148 is small amount of data, but what if this keeper’s record for the last 200 years showed the max spins was 6 spins.
Now if 6 is the max after so much time and we also know the average to hit is 2 spins, if you was to be a watcher and see that the 11th has missed its average of 2 and the known till present is 6, would you not now bet, even knowing the max could go 7 one day.
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#### Bigbroben

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##### Re: Non-hit time table
So, you are betting on 27 nrs, wishing one of them will turn to be the 11th unhit, right?

Let's say you want to make sure to be in profit when this 11th hits.  Which progression should be used?
1, 4, 16, 64, 256.

99,86% of times, it will hit within 5 spins.

Is this reckless?

Where did you get the 200 years stats from?
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#### nottophammer

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##### Re: Non-hit time table
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The last 200 years was a, what if. So here is 100 sets of 148 spins, should have done 185 as like Dane said, all could hit within 155 spins  as you can see there’s plenty of times all starting 37 have hit before spin 148, would getting 185 see all 37 have hit every time in the 100 sets?
But all we want to see is if at 100 checkpoints the average that was shown on Mortagon posted spins produces the 15 non-hit in spins 11-40, distributed not 5, 5, 5, but 7, 5, 3; why 7? For the general’s benefit the larger group is still favoured over the hit once or more than once.
So as general said Random.org is best for numbers, so here we see it’s the same as ef-bet posted spins
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#### nottophammer

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##### Re: Non-hit time table
BBB
Bit short on data the above.
This shows the same for 15 non-hits in spins 11-40 another 100 checkpoints of 148 spins.
Here you can see the average to hit, max spins, the usual 9/10 favs over 10/10
Now BBB what is the averages going to say for 1000 sets of 148 spins, I think you can guess.
What if we had this data since the euro roulette wheel 1st showed, would maximum spins for each non-hit be stable, like the average to hit, 2 spins up to the 19th non-hit
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#### Bigbroben

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##### Re: Non-hit time table
Notto,
In response to the 10hits->11hits:

results of 13k KTF sessions with Excel random (another existing source), testing how many spins to go from 10 to 11 hits.

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#### nottophammer

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##### Re: Non-hit time table

Should have got sets of 185 spins, not 148 spins; 74 times they have all hit
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#### nottophammer

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##### Re: Non-hit time table

What does GUT show; 0x's v 1x's then 0x's v 1x+>1x's, there's other combo's later in the game.
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#### nottophammer

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##### Re: Non-hit time table
Notto,
In response to the 10hits->11hits:

results of 13k KTF sessions with Excel random (another existing source), testing how many spins to go from 10 to 11 hits.

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the 11th non-hit is max 4 based on 148 spins then reset; so how did you set up the 13786 spins?

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#### Bigbroben

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##### Re: Non-hit time table
13786 in the amount of trials I ran, the sum of all nrs underneath.
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##### Re: Non-hit time table
best set of 148 yet

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#### nottophammer

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##### Re: Non-hit time table
So what does collecting sets of 148 spins show

Or go to the school of Steve and the general
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##### Re: Non-hit time table
You use statistics to win

Steve and general say it’s a fallacy.

Does that matter though?

Good work
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##### Re: Non-hit time table
You use statistics to win

Steve and general say it’s a fallacy.

Does that matter though?

Good work

both didn't learn the game well!
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#### nottophammer

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##### Re: Non-hit time table
now i know i'm not allowed to show this as it's classed as bragging
But it's show what you can take from Winkel's GUT, all about tracking the non-hit.

I/we know all the old baloney, but readers if you believe them, that's down to you.

5 small sessions reset on win goal, not bad for 48 spins

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