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#### djlaw

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##### Is comparing Weisbaden to US wheels valid?
Apr 29, 04:28 PM 2019
I see the posts with millions of live spins from Weisbaden, but the number layout on the wheels are totally different than the US wheels.  The thirds on both sides  are totally different...  Has anyone compared the stats to them?  And is there a large database on an American wheel of live spins somewhere?
Thanks...

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##### Re: Is comparing Weisbaden to US wheels valid?
Apr 29, 05:20 PM 2019
You need to compare like with like, sectors with sectors, and also the US wheel has an extra number.

So you need a 38 number wheel live permanence. Can't extrapolate from a different wheel. You'd be better off using a 38 number RNG.

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##### Re: Is comparing Weisbaden to US wheels valid?
Apr 29, 10:40 PM 2019
I see the posts with millions of live spins from Weisbaden, but the number layout on the wheels are totally different than the US wheels.  The thirds on both sides  are totally different...  Has anyone compared the stats to them?  And is there a large database on an American wheel of live spins somewhere?
Thanks...

When you look at the Weisbaden wheels you're looking at several different wheels being moved around frequently.

I have 00 spins separated by wheel if you need some.
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#### djlaw

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##### Re: Is comparing Weisbaden to US wheels valid?
Jul 28, 01:21 PM 2020
You need to compare like with like, sectors with sectors, and also the US wheel has an extra number.

So you need a 38 number wheel live permanence. Can't extrapolate from a different wheel. You'd be better off using a 38 number RNG.

RNG is not the same as a live spinner statistically.  I'm looking for a database of numbers from a 38 number wheel by a live person.  Thx

#### djlaw

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##### Re: Is comparing Weisbaden to US wheels valid?
Jul 28, 01:26 PM 2020
When you look at the Weisbaden wheels you're looking at several different wheels being moved around frequently.

I have 00 spins separated by wheel if you need some.

That would be amazing.  I have ~10,000 numbers from my play, but they are a few hours here and there.  I was hoping for a more consistent stretch.  I didn't know that Weisbaden rotated to different number layout wheels.  That makes it even more useless to test on.

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##### Re: Is comparing Weisbaden to US wheels valid?
Jul 28, 01:30 PM 2020
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I was even trying to see about the middle, right, left comparison.  Totally different.

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##### Re: Is comparing Weisbaden to US wheels valid?
Jul 28, 04:50 PM 2020
RNG is not the same as a live spinner statistically
You get the same exact results on rng as a real wheel, excluding the fact that rng casinos cheat.

#### pepper

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##### Re: Is comparing Weisbaden to US wheels valid?
Jul 28, 04:54 PM 2020
Also, wheel layouts don't matter one bit except for the fact that there is a 00 on the American wheel, but there are casinos with European roulette in the US in high limit rooms.