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#### ahlidap

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
Hi,

thanks for making a software for this.
Just a little suggestion: I know units are units, but if we can assign a coin value to the units, it would be great.

Example: coin value 0.10
Last level of bet, instead reading 61 units, software will display 6.1

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#### Mako

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Joe is a stud, very nice...

#### RouletteProgrammer

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
Interesting topic.
I am going to code this system to analyze it with real data.

The tracker looks great Joe.  (Maybe the reset button should reset the bankroll to the given input value)

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#### Let Me Win

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
Joe,

Would you consider making your tracker so it can do wheel halves?

I'd like to bet either wheel half 32 - 10  or  5 - 26

I'd like to play so that the croupier has to land the ball 10 times in each half of the wheel for me to lose.

#### jono1167

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Thanks Joe

#### ahlidap

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
Joe,

Would you consider making your tracker so it can do wheel halves?

I'd like to bet either wheel half 32 - 10  or  5 - 26

I'd like to play so that the croupier has to land the ball 10 times in each half of the wheel for me to lose.

Why those halfs?
Why exclude 0, and not 14, or 7?
If it can work, it needs to be adjusted.
And betting one half with 18 numberd and the other with 19 will not kill you.

What will kill you is risking 1800 units.

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Why those halfs?
Why exclude 0, and not 14, or 7?
If it can work, it needs to be adjusted.
And betting one half with 18 numberd and the other with 19 will not kill you.

What will kill you is risking 1800 units.

Agree... one of the steps requires you to bet 61. 61*18 seems unreasonable value to me....
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#### ahlidap

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
Have anyone faced this against Baccarat?
How frequent is to have 10 bankers and 10 players in 20 results (excluding ties) ?

With the advantage on green tie, that returns our stake.
Baccarat experts? ANDRE CHASS? CHT?

By the way, Joe's software, I think when zero hits it should count as a loss and move towards the opposite EC.
If we are on a waiting state (middle 0 cells), just keep waiting.

I also think the 5x5 option for this method should be tweaked and tested not only the 10x10

#### Joe

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
The tracker looks great Joe.  (Maybe the reset button should reset the bankroll to the given input value)

I didn't notice that, thanks and this is fixed now.

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Just a little suggestion: I know units are units, but if we can assign a coin value to the units, it would be great.

At first I wasn't keen on doing this because it would have meant increasing the size of the cells in the grids to accommodate the longer numbers and decimal points, which I didn't want to do. However I agree it would be nice to be able to bet small denominations, so I've added some labels which tell you what the stake is. The program just multiplies the number in the grid by the denomination to give the actual stake. I also added a la partage checkbox.
I've uploaded the new version, but haven't tested it much so please let me know if there are any bugs.

http://www.roulettecoder.com/trackers.html

#### Joe

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
Have anyone faced this against Baccarat?
How frequent is to have 10 bankers and 10 players in 20 results (excluding ties) ?

Someone already asked me if I could do a version for baccarat. Banker has a slightly higher chance of winning so I guess the chance of equality isn't as high as roulette, but then you have the commission so there isn't really any advantage.

I was thinking maybe you could connect this way of betting to the VDW concept since that's also an EC system. Also you could easily add more grids for any bet selection. Say Avant Dernier; bet last but one and move right when winning and if a lost bet opposite of last but one and move down. The chance of equality (wins = losses) would still be the same as when betting red/black.

#### Let Me Win

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
You can use the tracker as it is now for Baccarat.

Just change Red to mean player and Black to mean banker.

#### Joe

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You can use the tracker as it is now for Baccarat.

Ya that's what I thought.

#### ahlidap

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
You can use the tracker as it is now for Baccarat.

Just change Red to mean player and Black to mean banker.

Obviously..
I did not requested a tracker.. I asked "the experts" and anyone, how likely is to get 10 vs 10 in baccarat, as baccarat isn't my game and real things are different than in the theory.

You can also use the tracker to play your half wheels!
Put zero on the right side..
Use "red" on tracker as your top side of wheel (5 to 26), and black as your down side (32 to 10).

#### RouletteGhost

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
Have anyone faced this against Baccarat?
How frequent is to have 10 bankers and 10 players in 20 results (excluding ties) ?

With the advantage on green tie, that returns our stake.
Baccarat experts? ANDRE CHASS? CHT?

By the way, Joe's software, I think when zero hits it should count as a loss and move towards the opposite EC.
If we are on a waiting state (middle 0 cells), just keep waiting.

I also think the 5x5 option for this method should be tweaked and tested not only the 10x10

Donâ€™t ever say andre and baccarat expert in the same phrase again
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

#### JahVinci

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##### Re: The Masaniello Method
Someone already asked me if I could do a version for baccarat. Banker has a slightly higher chance of winning so I guess the chance of equality isn't as high as roulette, but then you have the commission so there isn't really any advantage.

I was thinking maybe you could connect this way of betting to the VDW concept since that's also an EC system. Also you could easily add more grids for any bet selection. Say Avant Dernier; bet last but one and move right when winning and if a lost bet opposite of last but one and move down. The chance of equality (wins = losses) would still be the same as when betting red/black.

I did ask. There are no commissions if you play on edgeless.io . They just added Baccarat with 0 house edge - no commissions or any fees. Works well for me. Bankroll was 100 and currently I am at 502. Betting unit is 1 Edge. Managed to avoid to 2 big losses coz I decided to take a smaller loss. So far so good.
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