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The General

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Oct 05, 11:47 AM 2018
well, as i said VB with naked eyes is for starters.
i went beyond that, i have created an algorithm that estimates the speeds and take in input the last 4 numbers, based on which the program will run a simulation and predicts the most probable zone on which the ball will land.

the only issue i am facing right now is that the program pointing to two zones on the wheel. i am not able at the moment to invalidate one zone during the prediction.

the program is  suitable for online casino as well as land casino.
i can't give more details on the algorithm (in public), guys who share same interest and have demonstrable skills in this domain are welcome to contact me.

Why would you want to average the last four wheel speeds?  And how are you even measuring wheel speed?

That's not vb and unfortunately it won't work.
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The General

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Oct 05, 11:47 AM 2018
well, as i said VB with naked eyes is for starters.
i went beyond that, i have created an algorithm that estimates the speeds and take in input the last 4 numbers, based on which the program will run a simulation and predicts the most probable zone on which the ball will land.

the only issue i am facing right now is that the program pointing to two zones on the wheel. i am not able at the moment to invalidate one zone during the prediction.

the program is  suitable for online casino as well as land casino.
i can't give more details on the algorithm (in public), guys who share same interest and have demonstrable skills in this domain are welcome to contact me.

Why would you want to average the last four wheel speeds?  And how are you even measuring wheel speed?

That's not vb and unfortunately it won't work.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Roulettebeater

Quote from: The General on Oct 05, 11:56 AM 2018
Why would you want to average the last four wheel speeds?  And how are you even measuring wheel speed?

That's not vb and unfortunately it won't work.

well, its easy to say it won't work.
but what about the complex algorithm, for sure you have no idea how complex it\s.

believe me it's very complex as i took years developing it. any way i never say that the predictions are 100% accurate. but i can say the success rate is 70%. That's more than enough to make profits.


A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

The General

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Oct 05, 12:01 PM 2018
well, its easy to say it won't work.
but what about the complex algorithm, for sure you have no idea how complex it\s.

believe me it's very complex as i took years developing it. any way i never say that the predictions are 100% accurate. but i can say the success rate is 70%. That's more than enough to make profits.

How are you measuring wheel speed?

The problem is you've written an algorithm based on a bad concept.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
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Roulettebeater

Quote from: The General on Oct 05, 12:04 PM 2018How are you measuring wheel speed?

I use some physics formula. believe me the speed is not the problem! rather it's the deceleration.


A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Roulettebeater

Quote from: The General on Oct 05, 12:04 PM 2018
How are you measuring wheel speed?

The problem is you've written an algorithm based on a bad concept.

bad concept?

you making me now laugh, laugh ....and laugh
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

The General

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Oct 05, 12:09 PM 2018
I use some physics formula. believe me the speed is not the problem! rather it's the deceleration.

Then you're not measuring wheel speed.  I sense a bad translation of concepts.  I don't think you're understanding what I mean by measuring wheel speed.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Roulettebeater

Steve,

I am eager to know your opinion.
You are probably the only guy who understands how this system in background works.
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

The General

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Oct 05, 01:32 PM 2018
Steve,

I am eager to know your opinion.
You are probably the only guy who understands how this system in background works.

Roulettebeater,

You never explained how you measure wheel speed.  Wheel speed is a measurement of how fast the wheel is rotating.  This isn't something that you can average.  In order to measure it you've got to actually look at the wheel.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

The General

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

ozon

Hi Roulettebeater
I am more interested in how online casino reacts to your winnings.
You wrote that you limit yourself with winners.
If you have such a big edge, the wins could be big.
I would like to invest some minimum capital and want to see how it can grow.
But I understand that the problem is not in winning, just limiting stakes, to stay under radar.

Roulettebeater

General

As I previously said, the speed is being correctly measured, I can’t tell more details.

@Ozon:

I had never payouts problems with Online casino, supposing your are a regular Player who plays every day, all what you need to do is to not make more than 200 euro per day.


A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

The General

Roulettebeater,

For several reasons I don't believe what you're doing will work.

1. You don't understand the fundamentals of VB.
2. Wheel speeds can't be averaged.  Doing so negates the prediction. (As a professional I know what I'm talking about and chances are I've been doing this since before you were born.)
3.  What you're describing is just a very crude form of dealer's signature.

Testing is simple.  Make a prediction for a number.  Record the actual outcome.  Next plot the distance in pockets from the predicted to the actual number hit and plot it to create a standard deviation graph.  The area around 0 pockets is where you want to see highest number of hits.  What you're measuring is the accuracy of your predictions and limiting the degrees of freedom of the test.

Collect at least 1000 predictions and continue collecting hits until the predicted area exceeds at least four standard deviations.  If you're not there after 7k spins, then you're wasting your time. (Unless you see the section rising above five or six standard deviations after only 500 or 600 spins and the chi is going through the roof.)  The shape of the graph will also be a good indicator.

Best of luck,

-The General

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

The General

Anytime you change a parameter you need to restart the test.  Out of sample testing is always recommended as well.

If you're planning on playing using the method online, then forget about it.

1. Wheel speeds and ball speeds can't usually be accurately measured because the video feeds are often poor.
2. Many online wheels have a built in servo that changes the wheel speed during the spin negating the measurement again. also because of poor video.
3. If you are lucky enough to win then software will discover what you're doing and freeze your account.  The software is designed to weed out consistent winners and freeze their accounts regardless of how they're winning.  Exceptions are in games like poker and sports betting.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Roulettebeater

Quote from: The General on Oct 05, 03:37 PM 2018
Anytime you change a parameter you need to restart the test.  Out of sample testing is always recommended as well.

If you're planning on playing using the method online, then forget about it.

1. Wheel speeds and ball speeds can't usually be accurately measured because the video feeds are often poor.
2. Many online wheels have a built in servo that changes the wheel speed during the spin negating the measurement again. also because of poor video.
3. If you are lucky enough to win then software will discover what you're doing and freeze your account.  The software is designed to weed out consistent winners and freeze their accounts regardless of how they're winning.  Exceptions are in games like poker and sports betting.


i disagree!

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

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