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vladir

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Need a break even method
Oct 18, 05:53 AM 2018
Hello,

Does anyone know of any method that allows for break even long term (no proffit and no loss)?
(except for "not playing" - I know by not playing I will definetly break even....)

Thanks!
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plolp

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Re: Need a break even method
Oct 18, 07:07 AM 2018

This is really bad luck, there are only methods that win here.

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Re: Need a break even method
Oct 18, 10:54 PM 2018
Hi Vladir,
A long term that has no win lose, will be a hg, because a simple mild progression must produce
a profit eventually.
if say, EC bet, if you very confident in 300spin will no win lose, then 1u bet 100, 2u bet 100, 4u...will produce profit.
Even 1u for 150spin, and 2u for next 150, must produce profit.

A few members here, and other forum, still searching for that notion, and in their term, STABLE selection,
they say, since mathboys insist that HE must succumbed to, then they look for,
lose only to HE, in medium to long term.
say, roulette 1/37=2.7%  or simply 3%, then 300×3%=-9units losses, flatbet...

thus any simple progression, that overcome -3% losses will produce profit....

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Re: Need a break even method
Oct 19, 03:59 AM 2018
Hi Vladir,
A long term that has no win lose, will be a hg, because a simple mild progression must produce
a profit eventually.
if say, EC bet, if you very confident in 300spin will no win lose, then 1u bet 100, 2u bet 100, 4u...will produce profit.
Even 1u for 150spin, and 2u for next 150, must produce profit.

A few members here, and other forum, still searching for that notion, and in their term, STABLE selection,
they say, since mathboys insist that HE must succumbed to, then they look for,
lose only to HE, in medium to long term.
say, roulette 1/37=2.7%  or simply 3%, then 300×3%=-9units losses, flatbet...

thus any simple progression, that overcome -3% losses will produce profit....

Indeed... well I would be happy with a method that lose only 2,7%. My plan was not to capitalyze on progressions, but on compensations/bonuses.
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plolp

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Re: Need a break even method
Oct 19, 04:18 AM 2018
Indeed... well I would be happy with a method that lose only 2,7%. My plan was not to capitalyze on progressions, but on compensations/bonuses.

So it's simple, you bet 1 token on the 37 numbers and you will lose 2.70%


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Re: Need a break even method
Oct 19, 08:25 AM 2018
Question:

would it be true if I said:  Any system that does not include the zero(s), such as streets, lines, ECs, doz, is a break-even game, and the zero occurence makes the HE?
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Re: Need a break even method
Oct 19, 01:00 PM 2018
If it just about keeping a balance & not gaining additional units then it does cut down on progressions quite a lot.

Example: Betting against the 2 coldest numbers (aka 35 number bet, EU wheel) and lets say you have you first loss after 11 spins, You are then just trying to recover 35-11= 24 units. So betting 2 units for 24/2= 12 spins and then reset back to 1 unit. Off cause if you loose again within those next spins the progression do ramp up but still nothing like if you was trying win it all back as usual.

In the other end we have something like playing 2x dozen/2x columns (24 numbers) randomly flat or incredible small +1 +2 bets increases/decreases on loss/win. Covering a good 65%-ish will hopefully eat away at the bonus-time while the bet selection keeps you treading waters. Aka 1 + 1 step forward then a big 2x step back all the time.

Keeping the two above in mind the best way to play with both "bonus time"-eating but with quicker recovery like betting 29-31 numbers (aka against 6-8 cold numbers, against a line, against the coldest half of column). Example: 30 numbers bet. 3 bets in you loose. You already won 12 units in your first 2 bets so you loss is 30-12= 18. So you double
 bet to 2 units (or less like 1,8 units) and plays 2 times to recover & resets down to 1 unit again. Most importently if you win enough units aka more than 30 units then you have a "win-buffer" so you dont even need to recover on the next loss but just keep playing flat.

But for the love of all that is holy dont play this on RNG as it will sniff out those "cold" numbers and turn em hot in a instant. Im no expert on cold numbers, but ive seen cold number on a real live wheel being cold for hours. Oh and as always the golden rule when betting high procentages: after a loss, always wait for a virtual win before betting (so you dont fall into the doubling you progression 5 times in 5 spins trap). Limit your progression to 2 steps max high. Have patience even if you loose a whole progression, as in time im sure you will recover. Also dont forget the casinoes know this so that is the reason they have to crazy  50x playback rules and/or timerestictions on payout etc.
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