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Steve

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And Moxy,

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Real men or mature adults don't get pissed off by information that conflicts with their beliefs. They check facts for themselves and progress.

Yeah I meant it. And I also know what I'm talking about. If something is incorrect or has holes, I'll let you know about it. I tend not to sugarcoat.

But if it's me who is wrong, then Ill proudly admit it because I pride myself on having the balls to admit being wrong. It's the only way to progress understanding.

Anyway dont discuss it here - its not a relevant thread.

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And Moxy,

Yeah I meant it. And I also know what I'm talking about. If something is incorrect or has holes, I'll let you know about it. I tend not to sugarcoat.

But if it's me who is wrong, then Ill proudly admit it because I pride myself on having the balls to admit being wrong. It's the only way to progress understanding.

Anyway dont discuss it here - its not a relevant thread.

Of course.  I meant just us two in a more personal manner if/when we eventually meet up.

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I am trying to build a software for live roulette online, so few questions for somebody who can "guess" the correct way of doing it:

-How to model in correct way the deceleration of the ball?
--What i am gonna do, i take multiple timings of revolutions, and by the average i model the deceleration for 1ms. So over let's say 500 revolutions of different spins, and taken at different speed, i put there let's say deceleration value for 1 ms is equal -0,080 speed per one millisecond.

-What speed should be used for the initial speed of the ball when the prediction process starts?
--When i take the timing of the revolutions, i take the average speed of the last two, so if it's 750ms, 800ms, then i set 775.

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Bebediktus3

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Really not sure in good understanding your question
-How to model in correct way the deceleration of the ball?
--What i am gonna do, i take multiple timings of revolutions, and by the average i model the deceleration for 1ms. So over let's say 500 revolutions of different spins, and taken at different speed, i put there let's say deceleration value for 1 ms is equal -0,080 speed per one millisecond.
Are many ways how to describe ball moving and I think nobody knows where is that "best". What you write here I do not understand ball deceleration are not stable value - it always changes. Every program creator describe ball movement how he thinks is better, but that not means that is "best".
And that are technical things, but I hardly believe that somebody will say you in the forum, on what he worked maybe several years.
When i take the timing of the revolutions, i take the average speed of the last two, so if it's 750ms, 800ms, then I set 775.
Last two usually are not enough - clocking errors will do its job and quality of predictions will be pure...
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...

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If anybody wanna talk about that, i have discord, or just message me. I wanna get some tips.

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If anybody wanna talk about that, i have discord, or just message me. I wanna get some tips.

can you elaborate more?
what are you trying to achieve? do you have programming skills ?
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Pontoon, start by learning visual ballistics. Then a basic roulette computer can literally be a few lines of code.

Creating a computer to beat modern wheels is quite different. You need proper understanding of the physics, and suitable algorithms. There are a lot of other challenges to deal with. It's like a formula. If one part is wrong, you can end up avoiding the winning number.

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@Roulettebeater Yes, i have acceptable skills. I don't get how to model the initial speed in the most accurate way, and how to model the deceleration in the most accurate way. I asked too if we need to know the exact number of revolutions, before the ball will land, or it can be around +/- 1? I already did a system, but i don't know if i have any edge, seems to work a little, but i want something more. I am testing it on a hard wheel with around 18 diamonds, and fast timings input.

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its getting tough for some casino, they are looking urgently for consultants to advise them how to deal with the outstanding players.. look below    :xd:

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There are much better games. I just wanna take the challenge.

I ask again, because it's very important question for me, do i need to know the exact number of revolutions, before the ball will land, or it could be +/- one?

Do i need to know where exactly the ball will go out of the track (I mean, the exact position of the wheel), or it can be +/- 120 degrees?

 

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