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If you have a system you believe is the "holly grail, prove it and I'll pay you $100,000. Details are at https://www.roulettephysics.com/100k-challenge/

I'm asked about this frequently so will leave this thread sticky.

So far not a single person has gotten past the first stage (testing 2m spins with realistic betting limits).

If you say "you dont need a system to beat that many spins to work", then you need to understand the math better. It's explained on the page above.

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Why do you think that if a person who has an HG would sell it to you for 100K ??

That's addressed on the page. But you know, people contact me often saying they want to take the challenge. So ask them why they want to sell it.

if you already have a real way to win with your electronic devices in real casinos, why do you need to win RNG?

That's also explained on the page, and throughout my websites. It's the #1 obvious question. The basic answer is it maximizes my revenue, without affecting what my private teams win.

thousands of people give commissions forced to play with your software ...

That's what I do with some versions of the roulette computer. But not thousands of people. I have many different technologies to beat roulette and other games. I sell some, I use some, some I do both, and some I dont sell at all.

Also the point of escrow is so a neutral entity pays what you are owed.

And finally, if I had for example the HG, who are you to put the conditions?

The one paying the money. And as the page says, you can suggest conditions of your own. Perhaps before speaking, actually read. Most peoiple dont bother to read, then just assume.

I think you do not need the HG of RNG, you already say win in real, then play real and become rich!

Correct, I dont need it. I'm just making an offer for anyone who may have it. And don't assume roulette is all I do.


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How should i put this... Randi is a lying c***. Im not. Randi has no interest in the truth. I do.

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How should i put this... Randi is a lying c***. Im not. Randi has no interest in the truth. I do.

I was referring to his reward for something he is 100% convinced he will never have to pay out.

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Well, I think If you extend you offer to real wheels systems, you can then get some offers.

Sorry but RNG is impossible unless you crack the algorithm or identify the seed
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Nice challenge.Finally Steve realized that HG ‘s are possible to develop.If there is a base like law of third,the rest is just matter of time.

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Hey Steve,

i liked a lot the page where you wrote on variance and its effect on the game.

but i am a guy with very good analytical skills.. i have digged deep into analytics and physics and came out with an interesting finding.

do you know that based on the speed of the ball you can find out if your system works good or not?

lets take below example, i have attached two graphs which represent the evolution of the the speeds ... in first graph one of my system seems to perform great with this set of speeds.

in the 2nd graph, the same system performed also well until spin 25 then it went south !
To know the reason, all you need to do is look at the evolution of the speeds after spin 25.


Fact: we can use additional information that can help us in finding out if the game is in our favor or not based on what i have written above.








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[quote author = Roulettebeater link = topic = 21087.msg213183 # msg213183 date = 1543247138]
Well, I think If you extend to offer real wheels, you can then get some offers.

Sorry but RNG is impossible unless you crack the algorithm or identify the seed
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Are you sure that you can only beat the RNG with the algorithm or the seed? I also thought that, but with that you will not achieve it either, because you would have to identify all the changes made by the algorithm or the constant seed changes.
As dyksexlic said clearly, once you identify what is inevitable, it is just looking for a way to take advantage of it and the algorithm or the thousands of seed changes, all of them have to carry out the irremediable process. I hope I have clarified because this is truly the holy grail and I think it is the only one.

Must be something to do with repeaters then...

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I was referring to his reward for something he is 100% convinced he will never have to pay out.

His offer is specifically to discredit. He has no genuine scientific interest. If he did, he would be scratching his head about many things, and he wouldnt have refused my offer to prove him wrong because I wasn't a "celebrity". Mine is a genuine offer to purchase the holy grail, if it is exists. It is not just a challenge.

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Well, I think If you extend you offer to real wheels systems, you can then get some offers.

I can already easily beat almost every real wheel. It is explained on the page too.

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Nice challenge.Finally Steve realized that HG ‘s are possible to develop.

I never said it isnt possible. I just say that with specific approaches it isnt possible.

If there is a base like law of third,the rest is just matter of time.

Law of a third is one example. It is a meaningless principle that is basic statistics, and cant be used for any advantage. I've explained the maths for it before, which is really simple.

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do you know that based on the speed of the ball you can find out if your system works good or not?

Generally speaking, yes of course.

It sounds like you are edging into AP, by looking at cause and effect. But there's a lot more to it, and better ways of doing things.

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As dyksexlic said clearly, once you identify what is inevitable, it is just looking for a way to take advantage of it and the algorithm or the thousands of seed changes, all of them have to carry out the irremediable process. I hope I have clarified because this is truly the holy grail and I think it is the only one.

That's like Turbo's logic...... find what is predictable about random, then random isnt random anymore.

For example, random has limits. You'll never get 37 unique numbers in 37 spins, at least in your lifetime. It's just so predictable. So although the next winning number is always 1 in 37 accuracy, somehow, somewhere over the rainbow, 1 in 37 changes to 1 in something better, but still stays at 1 in 37. But doesn't.

Most people need to go back to basics.


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