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4 Chips, only 3 numbers not covered

Started by Jkirb07, Feb 01, 07:35 PM 2019

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Winner

Quote from: Let Me Win on Feb 02, 01:52 PM 2019
After I Iose £14.30 because 19 came out I shall start the next spin following the chart I've attached.

19 is red so we always start the first bet with one chip on Red.

So by then following the chart and using £1 as my unit stake ONLY one of two things can happen.

I lose £100 giving me a total loss of £114.30 so far and all well within any table limits and I still have over £4,800 of bankroll left because I started with around £5000

Or I win on the chart which will give me a win of approx 20 units.
As I'm playing £1 per unit at this point it means I've won £20 which puts me over £5 in profit.

Of course I would not carry on until I had made £5 overall profit I would stop as soon as I had won £15 thus putting me up 0.70 over all.

So to lose £114.30 this HAS to happen.

19 must be the last winning number.

The wheel must now spin exactly nine reds and ten blacks over the next 19 spins.

Next part I will attempt to recover my £114.30 total loss.
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I seen this chart years ago but forgot what you do with it start with?

Firefox

Quote from: Jkirb07 on Feb 01, 07:35 PM 2019
Hello everyone, I have not been playing roulette very long at all but, I have learned a lot about it. Anyway, I was playing around the other day and placed only 4 chips and was covering all but 3 numbers, which are 0, 14, 23. My problem is I know it needs more chips in certain places so that each spin will either break even or profit. I am so bad with numbers and math which, I know sounds silly since I want to play roulette. I really need someone to do the math on this for me on how many chips should be placed where in order to break even if I don't land in a profit area or to just profit on every spin if it's possible. I really appreciate anyone's input on this. Thank you so much! Also, please just tell me if it's a garbage strategy or if you think a tweak to where the chips are placed should be made. Thanks

You may want to look at this thread:

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14779.0

You'll still lose money in the long run, but some different staking strategies for you to consider.

Let Me Win

Hi Winner

If the square is a zero you wait and watch a spin.

If it's red you go across if its black you go down.

The numbers in the square are the units to bet on that colour on that spin.

You keep going until you fall off the square either by going across or down.

When you fall off you have either won 20 units or lost 100 units.

To lose it has to spin exactly ten reds and ten blacks any other result and you win 20 units.

Winner

Quote from: Let Me Win on Feb 03, 04:31 AM 2019
Hi Winner

If the square is a zero you wait and watch a spin.

If it's red you go across if its black you go down.

The numbers in the square are the units to bet on that colour on that spin.

You keep going until you fall off the square either by going across or down.

When you fall off you have either won 20 units or lost 100 units.

To lose it has to spin exactly ten reds and ten blacks any other result and you win 20 units.
ok I remember now thanks

Let Me Win

I also realised that I can improve my odds ever so slightly by betting either High or Low and a 6-line when I am betting two dozens at the same time.

Example....

I am betting dozen one and two with £2 on each dozen for a total stake of £4
If I win I will get £6 returned for £2 overall profit.
If zero shows I will lose £4

If I however bet £3 on low and £1 on the 6-line 19 - 24
Then my total stake is still only £4 and I still get £6 back if either dozen one or two should hit.

However if zero shows now I get £1.50 returned to me so I only lose £2.50 instead of £4 for the same bet.

Only a very tiny adjustment in my favour but you need everything you can get in this game!

Jkirb07

Quote from: ignatus on Feb 01, 09:51 PM 2019
Hi JKIRB07 :)

Well, i've coded this bet and tried all kinds of triggers/progression, and then Finally i found the solution to this Riddle with this bet. (ofc, it's a "BAD betselection" but point here now is,(How to make it profitable?) --IF you play this bet, *and imagine only the middle LINE-bet exist,* so then, you play this bet with a ordinary 6 numbers negative progression (or Use the one in the code, AND then, you RESET ONLY the negative progressionline (6 numbers or whatever progression you want to use) WHEN the 6 numbers middle LINE BET Hits.

That's what i figure, anyway,

cheers  O0

TEST 1-2 RNG/LIVE

RX-code

system "4 Chips Bet"
//(copyright) ignatus 2019

method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
          Set List[1,2,3,5,7,9,11,12,14,16,18,20,22,25,28,30,32,35,40,45,50,55,60,70,80,90,100,
                        110,130,150,190,230,275,350]
       to Record "progression" Data
end
put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data

        Copy List [Black, 1st dozen, 3rd dozen, Line(16-21)] to Record "Bet" Layout



  while on each spin
  begin


  if total bankroll >= 3000 each time
begin
  stop session
end

if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
  stop session
end



{If any inside bet lost each
begin
add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
}


add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index


If Any inside bet won each
begin

if Bankroll > Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
begin
  clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
  put 5000% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
  put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

end




put 100% of Record "progression" Data on Record "Bet" Layout list


If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
     Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     End

  end
END


IGNATUS, thank you so much for doing all of that testing and figuring the math for these bets. I really appreciate it! Like I said, I am terrible at math and still very new to roulette so, to be extremely honest I do not quite understand the 6 number negative progression that you are describing. I assume when you say 6 numbers you are talking about the split street I have covered? I can see the sequence you have written in the code but, I still just don't quite understand what you are saying here.. "IF you play this bet, *and imagine only the middle LINE-bet exist,* so then, you play this bet with a ordinary 6 numbers negative progression (or Use the one in the code, AND then, you RESET ONLY the negative progressionline (6 numbers or whatever progression you want to use) WHEN the 6 numbers middle LINE BET Hits." Could you please explain it just a little clearer, I am so sorry but, I am still learning. Also, are you saying to leave only 1 unit on the other places except the 6 Line during the session? Thank you so much!

Jkirb07

Quote from: Let Me Win on Feb 02, 12:13 PM 2019
The parachute I refer to is the original...

So sometimes you will win 3,4,5 or more chips whilst using the parachute which will give you some juicy profits as you're betting with a chip value £144 at this point.

You might also be sh!tting yourself too at some of the later stages where the real big juice is so better to have a bot to play it whilst you sleep.

Let Me Win, thank you so much for all of your posts and feedback. Could you please explain a little more about having a bot play for you? How much is one and where can I get one? Thanks!

Firefox

Quote from: Let Me Win on Feb 03, 03:51 PM 2019
I also realised that I can improve my odds ever so slightly by betting either High or Low and a 6-line when I am betting two dozens at the same time.

Example....

I am betting dozen one and two with £2 on each dozen for a total stake of £4
If I win I will get £6 returned for £2 overall profit.
If zero shows I will lose £4

If I however bet £3 on low and £1 on the 6-line 19 - 24
Then my total stake is still only £4 and I still get £6 back if either dozen one or two should hit.

However if zero shows now I get £1.50 returned to me so I only lose £2.50 instead of £4 for the same bet.

Only a very tiny adjustment in my favour but you need everything you can get in this game!

You can improve your odds even more if you don't make the 19-24 bet at all. As you discovered, even chance bets are better value due to partage on zero. But layout bets and dozens pay twice the tax.

Your expected loss on this bet on low and 19-24 is

£3 x 1.35% + £1 x 2.7% = 6.75p

Whereas place that £4 on low alone and your expected loss is

£4 x 1.35% = 5.4p

So with another tiny adjustment, you're saving yourself  losing a bit more. In fact 1.35p per spin!

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