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Anastasius

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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 21, 01:41 AM 2019
Was the roulette simulator loophole on their martingale tester cause u could set that to flat bet with  a certain amount of misses  and beat a million spins(200 spins a click). I emailed them about this and then within a week it never worked again.. i think turbo was  using this  (missed  numbers in  x spins) i said "fix u stupid fk tester iv been beating it for a million spins unless  iv beaten the game" his reply " i doubt ur smart enough to beat roulette " then no mention of thr tester faulty or not... anyway then it beat rx tester 100kspins but with too many many downswings to ever play in real. Then failed excel...

So does anyone know if it was their martingale tester or an algorithm in their normal play mode also?

Just my opinion on why perhaps t"genius" belived he could win always.
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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 21, 02:16 AM 2019
In the random game, why should a number that has hit be more likely to hit over the next series of spins than a number that has not hit?
After all the same number of pockets remain on the wheel from one spin to the next, right?  And doesn't the number of pockets on the wheel determine the probability of winning?
What is the magical force that makes "repeaters" more likely to hit ?  :o
If anyone answers your question he is not just uneducated or plain stupid.
He's the ultimate idiot. :twisted:

However, this fact does not help you in gaining any advantage in prediction of the next number which is the only thing anyone can bet on.
It all comes down to this.
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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 21, 02:23 AM 2019
repeaters occur because dealer spin the ball with consistent speed, also the rotor must be consistent
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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 22, 04:01 PM 2019
repeaters occur because dealer spin the ball with consistent speed, also the rotor must be consistent

What???

Are you ok, Mr Roulettebeater?

There's no sense what you said.
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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 22, 06:28 PM 2019
This was great!
NEXT please

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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 23, 06:33 AM 2019
What???

Are you ok, Mr Roulettebeater?

There's no sense what you said.

He is right, in very specific circumstances.

See https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=25908.0

For proof.

But you have to be sure of what is going on. Not just betting on any old repeaters. They could be random fluctuations and disappear as fast as they came.

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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 23, 01:08 PM 2019
He is right, in very specific circumstances.

See https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=25908.0

For proof.

But you have to be sure of what is going on. Not just betting on any old repeaters. They could be random fluctuations and disappear as fast as they came.

Firefox,

Regardless, I really just enjoy telling Roulettebeater that he's wrong anyway.   
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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 24, 03:43 AM 2019
Firefox,

Regardless, I really just enjoy telling Roulettebeater that he's wrong anyway.   

But why ? Perhaps because you are a psycho!
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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 24, 03:45 AM 2019
What???

Are you ok, Mr Roulettebeater?

There's no sense what you said.

My friend, Andre !
It’s ok to comment while you smoke but never comment while you are drunk !

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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 25, 08:59 AM 2019
No it doesn't.

Any precise sequence of 10 numbers has the probability  (1/37)^10

Andre gave two different precise sequences, one with uniques, one with repeaters. They both have the same probabilty  (1/37)^10 so he is correct.


There happen to be more sequences overall with repeated numbers than  there are with uniques.

So if you select a sequence at random from all the possible ones, it is more likely to contain repeats than be solely uniques.  But that's a different question to the one  Andre posed.

That's what I meant when I said that there are more likely to be repeated numbers in a random sequence.

However, this fact does not help you in gaining any advantage in prediction of the next number which is the only thing anyone can bet on.


Sorry - I had to dig this up again. But something bothers me about the part in bold....

Has anyone EVER seen a full set of uniques over 37 spin cycle?  If any - would be a super rare occurrence and continue to be rare.

But - has anyone EVER seen a set of repeats over 37 spin cycle? DAILY!!!!


I don't care what maths probability says about -  (1/37)^10  ..... 

So no....   it's not only in my head.

And THAT is the problem I have with the statement that is made.
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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 25, 09:03 AM 2019
37 uniques is 1/1.000.000.000.000 so i doubt anyones seen 37/37 numbers ever.
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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 25, 09:27 AM 2019
37 uniques is 1/1.000.000.000.000 so i doubt anyones seen 37/37 numbers ever.

Well that's EXACTLY my point! It's not in my head.   

Thank you
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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 25, 09:35 AM 2019
Well that's EXACTLY my point! It's not in my head.   

Thank you

There's nothing there that you can exploit.

For example, after 30 unique numbers have hit, do you bet the 30 numbers?  30/37 for a payoff of only 35 to 1.  Nope, you're going to come up short with this bet in the long run.


Do bet the seven numbers that have not hit? 7/37 for a payoff of only 35 to 1.  Nope, you're going to come up short with this bet in the long run too.


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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 25, 10:00 AM 2019

That's the problem with most systems.
Repeaters, uniques, trends, patterns, etc are all  only in your head.

Please be polite.

I repeat ( see what I did there?  :xd: )  what I said.

Take a look at the statement above.

Now - placing a bet on a dozen, technically is waiting for it to repeat? Placing a bet on a RED is waiting for it to repeat? Right?

So a repeat is going to happen, doesn't matter how you look at it.

So it's not in my head, nor is it in many other peoples head. People place bets with the hope that certain events repeat.


Read what I'm saying here - SHOW ME - 37 uniques in a 37 spin cycle! You can't because it rarely happens. So that in itself you can use to some degree. But repeaters, man.... I can show you repeaters every single time.

Understand what I'm saying? You cannot based on the above tell me that repeaters are in my head! You cannot! Impossible to deny the fact that they do occur in almost every single spin cycle of 37 spins.
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Re: Am I wrong?
Mar 25, 01:40 PM 2019
You don't know which numbers will repeat though, until after the event.

You can bet on some uniques to repeat or repeaters to repeat again. But the column may be filled with new uniques and repeats of those. Yes there will have been repeats at the end of the column of 37, but whether you will have picked them is another story.

The wheel doesn't recognise groups of 37, it resets every spin. So you may bet on the first  ten uniques which show up, to repeat again. but those actually repeated in the last cycle of 37, and will not appear again in this one.

So you bet 10 units for 27  spins losing 270 while none, or just a few, of those numbers repeat. That's why betting on recent repeaters is just a random bet selection which will lose to the house edge.

 

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