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#### Person S

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Apr 10, 07:53 AM 2019
I apologize, a dozen 2 (19-24) brings + 2, from the bet 3.

#### redhot

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Apr 10, 08:30 AM 2019
Statistics promises us to repeat in the first half.
But it is difficult to understand what to bet on.
Well, we excluded the L + 3 combination.
There are 2 options left: H + 1, H + 2.
If this is an external rate, then we must put EC + Doz, i.e. high and two dozen.
It turns out we cover the whole field.

Here's how victory will affect:
dozen 1 win - breakeven
a dozen 2 wins - 1 part (13-18) brings breakeven, 2 parts (19-24) win + 1 chip from H. Total + 1
dozen 3 win - lose - 1.
Hmmm not so cool

I'm not sure I understand your bet, why are you betting on EC and Dozen?

In my example above, on the next spin I would bet dozen 1 and dozen 2 to try and capture a repeat of either H1 or H2.

We already have the EC value (H) from the previous spin, there's no need to bet the EC.

#### MoneyT101

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Apr 10, 09:36 AM 2019
Honestly I’m not sure if this is the correct route for you just yet.

I’m not saying you won’t find anything.  Just it’s a little more complicated and might make things harder using created numbers.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### Person S

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Apr 10, 09:50 AM 2019
In my understanding
H1
L3
H2 is three unique.
Because if we play pure DS, we bet on all three.
And if we remove one combination, the repetition statistics can be broken.

That is why instead of L3 I used H

#### redhot

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Apr 10, 06:05 PM 2019
Honestly I’m not sure if this is the correct route for you just yet.

I’m not saying you won’t find anything.  Just it’s a little more complicated and might make things harder using created numbers.

What would you suggest? Just stick with the standard positions?

Can the bet win just using standard positions? Bet stitching is not required?

#### MoneyT101

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Apr 10, 07:31 PM 2019
What would you suggest? Just stick with the standard positions?

Can the bet win just using standard positions? Bet stitching is not required?

There are many ways to win.. same ingredient can be applied to all custom games because in the end it behaves the same.

Ec + dozen as one bet behaves the same exact way as if your playing a line

Now if you can win with regular line.. you won’t be able to win with a more complicated bet that resembles a line bet
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### redhot

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Apr 11, 04:14 PM 2019
There are many ways to win.. same ingredient can be applied to all custom games because in the end it behaves the same.

Ec + dozen as one bet behaves the same exact way as if your playing a line

Now if you can win with regular line.. you won’t be able to win with a more complicated bet that resembles a line bet

Understood, thanks for the heads up.

In which case we need to identify how dependence can be created in a different way, without bet stitching.

#### Richard Meisel

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Sep 07, 02:04 PM 2020
Ares said: "There is a causative force that compels numerical events to seek their legitimate place within their assigned probabilities"

Well, my friend Ares, what do you think is that "causative force". Is it something natural or supernatural that leads to a STATISTICAL BALANCE? Is there really a Law Of Averages?

I know on an American Wheel the Ball has only 38 pockets to fall into. So the Ball is DEPENDENT on those 38 Pockets. If the number of Pockets were infinite the ball would be INDEPENDENT. So the next Spin after the last Spin is dependent on 38 Pockets.

Not too bad Odds if you consider that the next Spin after the last Spin the ball will fall into a Pocket about 15 Pockets on either side. Do statistics back this up?

I haven't seen any statistic backing up a Distribution Balance in Roulette. There's always some numbers getting skewed as in the Bell Curve after even millions of decisions. But, loving math, I have to believe in the Balance of Numbers in Roulette. But I've never seen a Perfect Balance.

Here is a System that should be tried. After a Spin, say #32, go to the Left 10 numbers (#14) and looking at #14 bet the next 9 numbers counterclockwise on Unhits and Uniques. Do the same on the right starting with #1 clockwise. This is an 18 number Bet. Flatbet. You can put a Unit on 0 and 00 also. Someone please test this out.

#### Ares289

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Sep 10, 01:26 AM 2020
Well, my friend Ares, what do you think is that "causative force". Is it something natural or supernatural that leads to a STATISTICAL BALANCE?

Completely NATURAL, it is not anything magical or theory, it just FACTS.

"No matter if you Iook at a singIe atom or the our soIar system, you wiII find that they are in baIance. A stabIe atom has the same number of protons and eIectrons. The positive protons canceI out the negative eIectrons. When the number of eIectrons does not equaI the number of protons, the atom is ionized and wiII try to get rid itseIf of the extra eIectrons… in other words, naturaIIy get to its baIanced state."

"EquiIibrium is neither good nor bad. It is simpIy a force in pIay aII of the time. StructuraI tension, which is the prime structure we use in the creative process, is a deIiberate set up of non-equiIibrium. The difference between the desired state (the outcome we want to create,) and the actuaI state (current reaIity in reIationship to our desired outcome,) forms a tension because of the non-equiIibrium factor."

"SimiIar is true with human actions, we try to find baIance in what we do. A simpIe exampIe is waIking. Its not Iike we need to think about baIance or are baIanced aII the time but from time to time we make adjustments to achieve our goal (optimaI state)"
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#### Moxy

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Sep 10, 02:38 AM 2020
Completely NATURAL, it is not anything magical or theory, it just FACTS.

"No matter if you Iook at a singIe atom or the our soIar system, you wiII find that they are in baIance. A stabIe atom has the same number of protons and eIectrons. The positive protons canceI out the negative eIectrons. When the number of eIectrons does not equaI the number of protons, the atom is ionized and wiII try to get rid itseIf of the extra eIectrons… in other words, naturaIIy get to its baIanced state."

"EquiIibrium is neither good nor bad. It is simpIy a force in pIay aII of the time. StructuraI tension, which is the prime structure we use in the creative process, is a deIiberate set up of non-equiIibrium. The difference between the desired state (the outcome we want to create,) and the actuaI state (current reaIity in reIationship to our desired outcome,) forms a tension because of the non-equiIibrium factor."

"SimiIar is true with human actions, we try to find baIance in what we do. A simpIe exampIe is waIking. Its not Iike we need to think about baIance or are baIanced aII the time but from time to time we make adjustments to achieve our goal (optimaI state)"
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Thanks again, Captain Obvious.

#### pepper

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Sep 10, 04:17 PM 2020
Completely NATURAL, it is not anything magical or theory, it just FACTS.

"No matter if you Iook at a singIe atom or the our soIar system, you wiII find that they are in baIance. A stabIe atom has the same number of protons and eIectrons. The positive protons canceI out the negative eIectrons. When the number of eIectrons does not equaI the number of protons, the atom is ionized and wiII try to get rid itseIf of the extra eIectrons… in other words, naturaIIy get to its baIanced state."

"EquiIibrium is neither good nor bad. It is simpIy a force in pIay aII of the time. StructuraI tension, which is the prime structure we use in the creative process, is a deIiberate set up of non-equiIibrium. The difference between the desired state (the outcome we want to create,) and the actuaI state (current reaIity in reIationship to our desired outcome,) forms a tension because of the non-equiIibrium factor."

"SimiIar is true with human actions, we try to find baIance in what we do. A simpIe exampIe is waIking. Its not Iike we need to think about baIance or are baIanced aII the time but from time to time we make adjustments to achieve our goal (optimaI state)".
Homeostasis takes effect to put us back to a balance. Our happiness is canceled out by our sadness. We go through cycles of good and bad. It is a part of life.

What is important though is having tools to cope with the bad cycles, offset the negativities if you will.

#### pepper

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Sep 10, 04:19 PM 2020
Not those kind of tools Moxy (gizmotool). Get ur head outa da guttar.

#### pepper

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##### Re: Dependence creates bias
Sep 11, 06:51 PM 2020
Thanks again, Captain Obvious.
Did u have to say that? Was it necessary? If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all.

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