The Ineptness of Turbo and others

[luckyfella]

Why? Some people want to discuss their theories, without others explaining their errors. That's what it's for.

You should understand that creating a gambling system is impossible, when all you have is random numbers.

The dumb just got dumber.

Try tell a better lie.

[Steve]

If you have no way of changing prediction accuracy to have better than random odds, then no system can work long term. And the notion that you need only play short term is rubbish. Can 100 players all play short-term and win? Can the few winners play short-term each day and have the same result?

Random means completely unpredictable. It means you are stuck with payouts below the odds.

But inexperienced players confuse basic statistics with predictability. For example, saying rubbish like "roulette is predictable because there will never be 37 unique numbers in 37 spins". I'm not going to explain again why it's a boneheaded statement.

Lucky, your knowledge is extremely poor. I'm saying this not as insult. You really need to work on the basics. I suggest :.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy/ but there are many websites explaining much the same. Either you arent reading them, or not understanding. So just keep playing and learn for yourself.

[Let Me Win]

Really please do shut down the forum.

Every single system thread always turns into why this can't or won't work.

So as nothing works what's the point in being here?

[Steve]

Maybe we should call it the "everything works, dont criticise" forum. Is that better?

Wait, thats what the system player board is for.

Get it through your skull. If your accuracy is random, your payout is below the odds and you'll lose. Nobody experienced is saying nothing works.

Is there any way it could be made simpler for you?

[Let Me Win]

The system board is locked 🔒

It's not that I don't understand it is that roulette is a hobby and systems are entertainment for me and many others.

[Steve]

The system board is locked

You must request access, to ensure only likeminded people can post there.

It's not that I don't understand it is that roulette is a hobby and systems are entertainment for me and many others.

And that changes how roulette works?

[Joe]

Why insult your math education ?

What would be insulting my education is if I asserted that you can get an edge with systems. At least I'm being consistent. And just because you can't get a long term statistical edge, doesn't mean that you can't design systems which aim to satisfy particularly short term goals, or your individual preferences and tolerance for risk.

And if it bothers you so much that there is 'negativity' on the forums, why not just post your system or show us the mathematical proof? That would silence the naysayers. Come to think of it, why should the negativity bother you when you have the HG? If you really had it you could care less, unless you want everyone to know what a genius you are, but that's easily fixed : just share the HG or post the proof. 

[Ka2]

You should understand that creating a gambling system is impossible, when all you have is random numbers.

Excellent link! I did not know about this theorem. It should be a sticky for everyone to read... will it help.... probably not most people here would still think they can beat the odds...

[Steve]

Its not a new theory at all. It has been said here countless times. And in many different ways.

[luckyfella]

why not just post your system or show us the mathematical proof? That would silence the naysayers.

Keep dreaming

If you really had it you could care less, unless you want everyone to know what a genius you are

There is only one roulette genius, he is TurboGenius.

Hi TG, I know you read forums.

We want you to know we finally understood the shit you wrote.
We are average guys.
Our combined brain power took us more than a year to crack it.

Also, to let you know that your shit has spawned a few of our own methods based on your teachings. This will not be possible had you not taken the trouble to write those posts.

Thank you sir, TG.

[Steve]

Our combined brain power took us more than a year to crack it.

It takes average intelligent and attentive people about 60 seconds to finish. But you're not even half finished. You dont understand the logic, so you're doing it the hard way... which is lots of testing, losing money, wondering what secret you're missing, back to the drawing board, finding the part you thought you were missing, trying again, and keep going in circles.

You dont know it yet, but you're clueless. Turbo was just a liar and inexperienced fool.

Good luck.

[Joe]

Keep dreaming

lol, I'm not the dreamer here, you are, and all the other Turbo fan boys. It's not that hard to understand Turbo's system or ones like it, but if you do the actual tests as Ka2 and others have done you'll see they don't work. Hot number and repeater systems have been tested to death and no variations of them can work. Turbo bets no more than 4 numbers and uses a progression. Systems like that can stay in the black for 1000s or even 100s of thousands of spins. But they're not long term winners.

[luckyfella]

TG, gamblingforums is a toxic swamp.

Explains why I chose to post here.
TG, very proud to be called a Turbo fanboy.

Thank you steve for hosting my posts.

[Ka2]

lol, I'm not the dreamer here, you are, and all the other Turbo fan boys. It's not that hard to understand Turbo's system or ones like it, but if you do the actual tests as Ka2 and others have done you'll see they don't work. Hot number and repeater systems have been tested to death and no variations of them can work. Turbo bets no more than 4 numbers and uses a progression. Systems like that can stay in the black for 1000s or even 100s of thousands of spins. But they're not long term winners.

So true I had some tests where (all flatbetting) at some point I was up more than 10.000 units! after 1000's and 1000's more spins I was back at zero.

[Steve]

Thank you steve for hosting my posts

Actually you're welcome. I always try to be unbiased and fair. We dont agree on things, but so what. Yes gamblingforums is a mess. It exists only for traffic, without regard for integrity. So it thrives on drama, not productivity. Its admin is a pos. I learned that first hand. Without being biased, I think all my forums are balanced and fair, but its impossible to make everyone happy.