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Started by BP12, Jan 08, 03:41 PM 2020

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Mister Eko

Quote from: bluediamond2013 on Jan 19, 07:17 PM 2020
Why can't you guys share this " winning system"?? Ignatus is sharing systems on a daily basis. Let the community try it and lets see the truth if it is a winning system. :twisted: :smile:

He want money, nothing else. He said it is not HG, but a winning system, so winning system is not HG  based on this.

puntoit

from BP12 gives this system to everyone it may be that we can improve it, as things are going nobody will buy it ' ???

Bigbroben

Quote from: Ravenous Treasure on Jan 19, 05:58 PM 2020
Miles I only know that it's won for me this far. Don't know what will happen in the future..you're the guy I guess I should ask for that info ;)

So far...  how many spins or sessions is that?  This thread appeared just a few days ago. 

For something to be sold for 2500$/â,¬/£, it at least has to have been giving this much profit to someone.

Anybody claims to be 2500u in profit with this system?  How much money did the creator make playing it?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Ravenous Treasure

Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 19, 09:12 PM 2020
So far...  how many spins or sessions is that?  This thread appeared just a few days ago. 

For something to be sold for 2500$/â,¬/£, it at least has to have been giving this much profit to someone.

Anybody claims to be 2500u in profit with this system?  How much money did the creator make playing it?

I didn't pay for anything..our system of play is VERY similar and I've been playing this way since November 25th of 2019. So 55 days..I've had losing sessions but never a losing day. I don't record number of spins or number of sessions but I can tell you I surpassed $2500 in profit pretty quick. I will say this about it..of course it's exciting making money BUT its very tedious and you can't have any major distractions. You have to pay attention and be on point. Not sure if BP agrees with me on that but that's how I feel when playing it. When my wife or kids are home it's a no go..I have to have an empty house lol

BP12

It’s interested how you guys doesn’t seem to pay attention at all what I’m saying and I’m starting to realise that maybe this was a dumb idea of me. If you ACTUALLY reads my post when i tell you the price I say that the 2500$ will be if I don’t have any paying customer until end of this week. Then I know the interest isn’t there and I will focus on my own play. Until then I’m open for offers.

And the thing is that even if it was 2500$ that’s a totally fair price concider you will make that back and more if you follow the rules and pay attention just like Rav said. I still have some actual real players that testing it atm and also understand the logic behind it. I don’t think they will mind paying if they see the results. And again if it’s not something for you I understand and you’re welcome to leave the thread.

BP12

And to bigbroben I’m over 9000+ units so far so i guess you can say I made it passed that.

Elite

i found this system Ball24  . its similar to BP12 system.Tested wihtout progrssion , Loss is  small, May be with progression it can work.
I have some points if any one can code on belwo program, pm me ,  i will share my thoughts to change below code to test this tripper system
system "ball 24 system"
{
NOTE: ** For Version 2.0.13 or better **

For documentation see this link:
link:://gambling.projectsydney.com/viewtopic.php?t=744&start=0

Basic instruction:

Select table (single or double)
Select number of spins to wait 24, 37, etc.
Select to bet on all numbers that have two hits during the X spins
and keep it static until a WIN or always check the last X spins and place
bets on all numbers with two hits.

Play until you get at least one hit then reset.
}
method "main"
begin
    while starting a new session
    begin
      call "initialize";
      call "input";
      exit;
    end
   
    if  any inside bet has won each time
    or  record "bet type" data = 2 //rolling bet type
    begin
        set flag "bets placed" to false;
    end

    track last number of record "track count" data to record "track spins" layout;

    if  record "track spins" layout count = record "track count" data
    and flag "bets placed" is false
    begin
        call "count hits";
    end
   
    call "place bets";
end

method "place bets"
begin
    set flag "bets placed" to false;
    put 1 on record "wheel" layout index;
    put 1 on record "wheel" data index;

    loop until record "wheel" layout index > record "wheel" layout count
    begin
        if record "wheel" data = 2
        begin
            put 1 to record "wheel" layout;
            set flag "bets placed" to true;
        end

        add 1 to record "wheel" data index;
        add 1 to record "wheel" layout index;
    end
end

method "count hits"
begin
    clear record "wheel" data;
    put 1 on record "wheel" layout index;
    put 1 on record "wheel" data index;

    loop until record "wheel" layout index > record "wheel" layout count
    begin
        put 1 on record "track spins" layout index;
       
        loop until record "track spins" layout index > record "track spins" layout count
        begin
            if record "wheel" layout = record "track spins" layout
            begin
                add 1 to record "wheel" data;
            end
           
            add 1 to record "track spins" layout index;
        end
       
        add 1 to record "wheel" data index;
        add 1 to record "wheel" layout index;
    end
   
    set max to record "track spins" layout index;
end

method "input"
begin
    group
    begin
        display "Ball 24 by Rafin";
        input dropdown "Wheel type
       
                        1:=Single Zero
                        2:=Double Zero" to record "wheel type" data;
        input data "How many spins to track?" to record "track count" data;
        input dropdown "Bet on static repeats or dynamic repeats.

                        1:=Static
                        2:=Dynamic" on record "bet type" data;
    end
   
    if record "wheel type" data = 1
    begin
        load single wheel;
    end
    else
    begin
        load double wheel;
    end
end

{Initialize.  Make a record "wheel" of all of the numbers.
Include the number 00 incase of American wheel.
}
method "initialize"
begin
    set flag "bets placed" to false
   
    clear record "track spins" layout;
    put 24 on record "track count" data;
    copy list [number 1, number 2, number 3, number 4, number 5, number 6,
               number 7,
               number 8, number 9, number 10,number 11,number 12,number 13,
               number 14,number 15,number 16,number 17,number 18,number 19,
               number 20,number 21,number 22,number 23,number 24,number 25,
               number 26,number 27,number 28,number 29,number 30,number 31,
               number 32,number 33,number 34,number 35,number 36,number 0,
               number 00] to record "wheel" layout

    clear record "wheel" data;
    put 1 on record "bet type" data;
end

Steeefan2014

Hi everyone,

I've been reading this thread for a few days now, but I didn't wanted to say anything before testing the system that BP made. I can't say that I tested it a lot... aprox 6-700 spins yesterday. But, what can I say is that I didn't even reached the stoploss of 400units. Every session was in profit - starting from 3-4 units up untill 50-60 units/session, give or take.

You'll say that 6-700 spins is irrelevant. You are absolutely right, can't argue with that. But still... what I see on this thread leaves me..... mostly speechless. The man developed a system that seems to work for him and someone else playing aprox the same. Why can't you let him enjoy and be happy for him? And if he wants to sell it, so what? I agree that $2500 might be a high price to start, but who are we to put a price on his work???

In my opinion... what he did is great. Also... he gives you trial versions to prove that all he said is backed up. What else do we need?

I think the ones that are so.... haters... should reconsider their position.

Bottom line... great job BP12. Wish I had time to test it more, but still...

Mister Eko

I think Ignatus can easily cod this system with a stoploss of 400 units. He is excellent in coding so everybody can see how this method performs in long therm. Just collect numbers, and if at least 3 numbers hit twice, start bet with negative lrogression. If numbers reach 11, or we are down -400 units, reset, and start again.

Bigbroben

Quote from: BP12 on Jan 20, 01:10 AM 2020
And to bigbroben I’m over 9000+ units so far so i guess you can say I made it passed that.

How high did you go up a progression, if any?

I coded many systems with auto-adjusting progression that do achieve very good results.  Maybe 90% of runs win without needing to progress, another 9% stay below progression of 10, but there is always this one time where it goes past 100, 1000, 5000u per number.  Yes, it can win a long time within table limits, but again, eventually, the run from hell comes by.

Every system is a HG, or wins more than it loses if it wasn't of table limits.

Were your 9000u achieved within plausible limits?
Are your units real money or simulation money?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Bigbroben

Look:

R3-1: went up to 2500u or so with a max prog of 27.
R3-1: around the same result with a prog of 204.

Some trials are worse, some are better. 
I could put a stop-loss or stop-prog, but it would soon or later create a downward staircase.  And the sum of all results would be negative.

This is all based on rng.  If, somehow, you are reading the wheel, doing some kind of accuracy increase, then sure, possible.  But if it's just against random, then the -2,7% edge kicks in, soon or later, sue to table limit.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

BP12

Yes it’s within limits. Yes it’s been played with real money.

precogmiles

Quote from: Ravenous Treasure on Jan 19, 05:58 PM 2020
Miles I only know that it's won for me this far. Don't know what will happen in the future..you're the guy I guess I should ask for that info ;)

lol, you don't need me to tell you a martingale will eventually fail. Especially when you have table limits and limited bankroll.

Casinos are not dumb.

BP12

This system has nothing to do with table limits. You should never be able to go that high that you can’t play it through. This is also a thing that people don’t think about. Plan for the worst case scenario regarding br and units to bet, then you will have an easy time being profitible.

Ravenous Treasure

Quote from: BP12 on Jan 21, 09:52 AM 2020
This system has nothing to do with table limits. You should never be able to go that high that you can’t play it through. This is also a thing that people don’t think about. Plan for the worst case scenario regarding br and units to bet, then you will have an easy time being profitible.

Wondering if anybody purchased your system and what thr thoughts are? Had my first losing day yesterday only because I had a losing session early and had to cut off for family stuff. Just recouped and plan to play for a few more hours hopefully.

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