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Got that "odds" calculation here (single zero):  casino-games-online.biz/roulette/record-series.html

But this was "fun mode" online RNG roulette at:  aurumage.com

Number 8 hit 6 times in-a-row:
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Did you know the odds are exactly the same for this sequence?:

4,32,0,18,16,22

Interesting  8)
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That's a very rare event. The most I have seen during my plays was four in a row.

It's random, so anything can happen. :) I often check the local lottery results to see the various random sequences they draw. It can be quite interesting at times, like when out of 45 numbers they draw four consecutive numbers like 20,21,22,23 or sequences like 6,16,26,36

Did you know the odds are exactly the same for this sequence?:

4,32,0,18,16,22

You are correct, because before each individual spins you have the exact same odds for all numbers, but some people say the odds are not the same for seeing six different numbers in a row, and seeing six repeats in a row. I can't do the math, so I can't prove it.

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You are correct, because before each individual spins you have the exact same odds for all numbers, but some people say the odds are not the same for seeing six different numbers in a row, and seeing six repeats in a row

That's right. It depends on your point of view. In terms of the number of repeats the probabilities are very different. For six spins there is a 65% chance that the numbers will all be different, which obviously is far higher than getting 6 of one number in a row, so to say the odds are the same is misleading.
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You are correct, because before each individual spins you have the exact same odds for all numbers, but some people say the odds are not the same for seeing six different numbers in a row, and seeing six repeats in a row. I can't do the math, so I can't prove it.

For each and ever spin, the odds are 1 in 37. The wheel doesnt give a crap which number is which. It doesn't care of the numbers are 8,8,8,8,8,8 or any other sequence of numbers.

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That's misleading. By the binomial distribution the chance of getting six numbers in a row is far lower than getting six different numbers.
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No, you are both right, no point to argue.

Before the sequence happens you have a high chance of seeing 6 different random numbers, and an extremely low chance of seeing 6 repeats.

But if you say that the next sequence will be either 5,5,5,5,5,5 or 14,15,6,27,11,2 in this order, these two have the same chance to happen.

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chance of getting six numbers in a row is far lower than getting six different numbers.
Chance in one or another case is the same 1/37*1/37*1/37*1/37*1/37*1/37 :).
Always think about two - will be much easier if just fall  4 what is the difference what we wait 4 or 14 - chance is the same !

  But next 4 will give sequence from two the same numbers and 14 will give a sequence of two different numbers :).

Joe, does not do such low school level mistakes... If you do not have some additional information - chances in every attempt for every number are the same no matter it is the same number as previous or different...

Only peoples who absolute not understand theory of probabilities think that after 5-5-5 - any other number than 5 have greater chances :)
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
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It's easier to understand if you think about the difference between a combination and permutation. For instance, the sequence 7, 0, 16, 34, 16, 10 has one repeat, and the sequence 7, 0, 16, 16, 34, 10 has the same numbers but in a different order. There are other possible sequences which also have two of #16 and the same remaining numbers, so the combination is the same but the permutations are different. It's the same with even chances, so RRRRRR has the same chance as RBBRBR but the first has less chance than second because there are more ways that the second can occur if you allow the same number of reds and blacks but allow them to be distributed differently.
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Joe, does not do such low school level mistakes... If you do not have some additional information - chances in every attempt for every number are the same no matter it is the same number as previous or different...

No, it's not a mistake. Read my previous post.
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Only peoples who absolute not understand theory of probabilities think that after 5-5-5 - any other number than 5 have greater chances

But I'm not saying that. Of course the next number has chance 1/37, but the probability of a sequence of spins viewed as combination (order not taken into account) is not the same as a permutation (take order into account). I realize it can be confusing, but to deny this is to say that the binomial distribution is false.  ;)
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For instance, the sequence 7, 0, 16, 34, 16, 10 has one repeat, and the sequence 7, 0, 16, 16, 34, 10 has the same numbers but in a different order.
But if we wait for concrete sequence so after 7, 0, 16, here you must choose which number you wait for 34 or 16?
What you wrote are two different sequences but 5,5,5,5,5,5 are one sequence.
You cant compare the probability of one of two sequences with concrete one sequence.
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

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so RRRRRR has the same chance as RBBRBR but the first has less chance than second because there are more ways that the second can occur if you allow the same number of reds and blacks but allow them to be distributed differently.

Sorry, I know this seems contradictory. What I mean is that combinations of sequences of the same length don't have the same probability, but permutations of sequences do.
The key to successful speculation is paying less for something than its value. Roulette systems are poor value because all bets are worth less than what you pay for them.


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