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Started by GLC, Oct 03, 08:59 PM 2010

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malcop


GLC

In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GamblerMickey

I really like this bread winner progression.  It makes you go on for a long time with a good slow profit builing up, but I keep getting killed when entering a long period of misses. 

I have tried to put in some stoplosses but I reach the stoplosses very often and I keep thinking if I could have made the session into profit if I just kept going. . . .


malcop

Quote from: GamblerMickey on Oct 20, 09:08 AM 2010
I really like this bread winner progression.  It makes you go on for a long time with a good slow profit builing up, but I keep getting killed when entering a long period of misses.  

I have tried to put in some stoplosses but I reach the stoplosses very often and I keep thinking if I could have made the session into profit if I just kept going. . . .


Hi GamblerMickey

I saw your post and thought I would share with you how I handle the dilemma you have with deciding on the correct stop-loss, when to quit ect.

When I try out a new progression I would play as many sessions as I could just to determine what the maximum draw-down was, when I say draw-down I'm talking about the lowest point in a session so for example if lowest draw-down I had in a session was -34 using the current progression then I would double that amount and in the above example I would just round up the -34 to something like 70 or 80 units.

You have to decide how far you want to go so if a majority of the test sessions you found that the maximum draw-down was around the -34 range but one or two sessions you had draw-downs in in the range of -50 or -60 then you would have to decide if you should just treat those as losing sessions our increase your session buy-in to accommodate the larger draw-down for those few sessions.

It is all a matter with what you are comfortable with, for me personally I like to keep my buy-ins to around the 30 ââ,¬â€œ 50 range.

Once I have my session buy-in I would then apply the MM rules bellow.

Stage 1: BB = Breakdown Border (Session Buy-In)
Stage 2: SBB = Stop Betting Border (Set at 15%)
Stage 3: SP = Satisfaction Point (Set at 30%)
Stage 4: IG = Initial Goal (Set at 50%)

Stage 1: Is your session buy-in you never place a bet that will take you bellow your buy-in.
Stage 2: Is your safety net, this only comes into effect once you have got to stage 3.
Stage 3: This is where you would be happy to go home with, in this case 30% of your buy-in.  Once you get to this stage you would never place a bet that would take you bellow Stage 2.
Stage 4: This is your goal, when you get here you have made 50% of your buy-in now if you decide to go on you will never place a bet that would take you bellow stage 3.

What I like about the MM rules I use is I could apply it to any type of system for example Victor's tool, that we are all eagerly waiting for recommends 150 as a session buy in.

So I will be playing to these parameters:

Stage 1: -150
Stage 2: 173
Stage 3: 195
Stage 4: 225

The above figures are based on using Ã,£150 buy-in.

I would love to say that I came up with this Idea myself, but I have adapted this from information I found in two ebooks I bought a while back, ââ,¬Å"Blackjack Millionaireââ,¬Â and ââ,¬Å"Roulette Advantage Systemââ,¬Â

Every session I play even if it is just flat bet, I use these MM rules, it has stopped me many a time from giving away my profits to the casino.
I have included a MM Tool, that I use when I play online all you have to do is enter you current Casino balance, then enter your session buy-in in units, so if just betting flat I would enter 10, and then enter base unit in monetary values, so for me I would enter Ã,£10.00.

Once you have entered the three values the tool will work out the rest for you.

If you are going to a B&M Casino you can still use the tool, before you go just enter the session buy-in in the Casino Balance and the spreadsheet will do the rest for you, you will notice that Stage 1 will show 0, Wright down the 4 stage figures and you are good to go!

I have also attached a pdf with the MM rules for 30 units, but the info in it could be applied for any session buy-in the only thing that would change is the values not the information.

One last thing, I'm from the UK so the currency is set to Ã,£, the spreadsheet is protected so you would have to un-protect the spreadsheet to make any changes the password is: password

Like I said I use these MM rules every time I play and I have noticed that my winning sessions has gone up dramatically, mainly because I no longer stay in a session longer than I should have giving back everything I just won.

It works for me and I hope it will for you to.

I hope people find this useful.

Thanks

malcop


Proofreaders2000

Here's a Bread Winner variation for you

Say if you're betting dozens 1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3 (going up to the next progression if there are 3 losses out of five attempts--if there are 3 out of five wins decrease by one unit)

Same with Even Chances: 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 (going up if there are two losses in a row or two losses out of three attempts.--if there are 2 wins out of three attempts decrease by one unit)


ludo8400

@Malcop

Already 10 years ago
I hope you still well in this terribly and strange world of lock down.
I was wondering if you get some times in mind to put your game on the EC's in an excel programm.
Still we all have courage and have this forum .
Thanks for the moderatot to keep this forum open
:D
Nice reggards to all members
Ludo8400

Maate

What if you use this progression on both sides. That way, a losing streak on one side still gives you a smaller but substantial win on the other side. Meaning each time you win five units on each side you collect them. Just a thought

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