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2,565,726,409 to 1 ODDS - Number 8 hit 6x in-a-row!!!

Started by RP501, Mar 23, 03:14 AM 2020

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Bebediktus3

Quote from: The General on Mar 24, 01:07 PM 2020I assume when you say a dice game that you're referring to the game of craps. 
No that is a simple game when players in order throw dice and wait till will fall their combination - which combination is first - that is winner.

For me is very strange that peoples related to gambling not know this old task. I thought that will know here all :)

I hope at least Monty Hall problem know all ? :)
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

maestro

Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Bebediktus3

Want to hear something from few and will explain all... :)
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Nickmsi

The person that throws the dice FIRST will have a better chance of winning.
Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

Bebediktus3

No look after an equal amount of throws of course if one will throw 100 times but other 10 natural that 100 will win, but you not must be such dumbs to think this way... :)
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Bebediktus3

So as promised, I will explain this task.
Pitty but looks that peoples did not know that task and to solve by individual forces they cant...

So the task is who has better chances first to collect his sequence. Better chances to collect sequences have that, who collect sequences from three different numbers!
The easiest way to understand why that is, in my opinion, is this - say is starting position when both players hit his first number (666) hit 6 and (456) hit 4. Try to calculate how many numbers lead to success if say we have limit 4 throws at all.

This way (666) player after first hit 6 has only one successful next throw - that is 6, if he in the second throw hits another number he cant collect his winning combination till 4th throw.

Now, look at  player (456)  he after first hit 4  he has two numbers which still leed to possible win that is 5 and wining combination will be 456x, but also can win after hitting 4 this way wining combination will be 4456. So this player can win in two ways [456x;4456] but the player  (666) only in one way [666x]. And player (456) in the next three throws after the first successful have better chances.
This way we can increase the number of throws and see that always player (456) have slight better chances to be first who collect his combination.

So here is some hint that nobody payss attention to the the task - that winner is that who is first :)
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

gorki

Quote from: Steve on Mar 23, 11:56 PM 2020
For each and ever spin, the odds are 1 in 37. The wheel doesnt give a crap which number is which. It doesn't care of the numbers are 8,8,8,8,8,8 or any other sequence of numbers.
CROATIA

Logical life

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Mar 25, 07:49 AM 2020
So as promised, I will explain this task.
Pitty but looks that peoples did not know that task and to solve by individual forces they cant...

So the task is who has better chances first to collect his sequence. Better chances to collect sequences have that, who collect sequences from three different numbers!
The easiest way to understand why that is, in my opinion, is this - say is starting position when both players hit his first number (666) hit 6 and (456) hit 4. Try to calculate how many numbers lead to success if say we have limit 4 throws at all.

This way (666) player after first hit 6 has only one successful next throw - that is 6, if he in the second throw hits another number he cant collect his winning combination till 4th throw.

Now, look at  player (456)  he after first hit 4  he has two numbers which still leed to possible win that is 5 and wining combination will be 456x, but also can win after hitting 4 this way wining combination will be 4456. So this player can win in two ways [456x;4456] but the player  (666) only in one way [666x]. And player (456) in the next three throws after the first successful have better chances.
This way we can increase the number of throws and see that always player (456) have slight better chances to be first who collect his combination.

So here is some hint that nobody payss attention to the the task - that winner is that who is first :)
Interesting .....

Troykit

Has anyone ever tried playing with just one number and repeating it until it hits??

Joe

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Mar 25, 07:49 AM 2020The easiest way to understand why that is, in my opinion, is this - say is starting position when both players hit his first number (666) hit 6 and (456) hit 4. Try to calculate how many numbers lead to success if say we have limit 4 throws at all.

This way (666) player after first hit 6 has only one successful next throw - that is 6, if he in the second throw hits another number he cant collect his winning combination till 4th throw.

Now, look at  player (456)  he after first hit 4  he has two numbers which still leed to possible win that is 5 and wining combination will be 456x, but also can win after hitting 4 this way wining combination will be 4456. So this player can win in two ways [456x;4456] but the player  (666) only in one way [666x]. And player (456) in the next three throws after the first successful have better chances.
This way we can increase the number of throws and see that always player (456) have slight better chances to be first who collect his combination.

This is a very counter-intuitive result. I haven't been able to find this exact problem online, although there is similar problem (problem 3 in the attached) which uses the same principle and shows the detailed maths.

Logic. It's always in the way.

maestro

Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Steve

Quote from: gorki on Mar 26, 11:42 AM 2020

Incorrect. All those sequences happen the same amount of times. Don't believe me? Do lots of testing.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
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maestro

well to have 32 blacks is not that often :twisted: :twisted:<see second composition>
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Steve

Are you still not understanding? Any sequence will happen the same amount of times. Forget this whole rate event thing. Its incorrect. Anyone can do the simple testing.

Then when they catch up and prove to themselves what professionals already proved, they can stop reinventing broken wheels, and focus on NEW things.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

maestro

 :twisted: i see you are still in stone age...never mind every age has its own pluses :twisted: :twisted:
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

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