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#### cht

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 16, 05:38 PM 2020
Still waiting on that private message  very curious in what you are showing and nobody can figure out.

What principles do you use? What users have brought you to this winning system?
Watch this video(thanks CP) carefully, explains the 2LoTD principle.

It moves from orderliness(separate) towards disorder(mix). The stats of each state is the same. The microstate count of mix is far more than separate that makes the difference. The win occurs naturally without any prediction. Figure out the rest.

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#### -Katalyst-

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 16, 08:13 PM 2020
The problem is in my view asking the right questions..

Who is to say that the mathematical model is correct, and that chances are equally distributed?

Why is nobody questioning the premises of this game ? Are you( are we ) 100% certain that the probability of red and black are 50/50?!

Take a quantum microscope and zoom in your hand. Tell me how does that translate to an uniform field. How is that order/ chaos?.

What is the big elephant in the room? For sure it has nothing to do with House edge, variance or any other pretty boxes ticked off in the history of the Internet roulette forums..

Great posts CarpeDiem! - enlightening posts
....that’s if peeps are awake to them

Precog n Winforus - wonders me why you two are so fixated on protecting the newbies/trolls/system junkies from loosing their shirt/pants and something else

Never have intended to sell (or mislead) anything on here but did want to reiterate what ATI has respectfully put across in just about all his posts of late: just because you, Winforus & all the Roulette Gurus (in 10+ yrs of research) haven't figured it out or come across something substantial doesn't mean that it isn't there - naive or less travelled to think there are only a few confined conventional ways to an end goal

The observer defines the game!

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#### mickavelli

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 16, 08:50 PM 2020
Failure and Success are intrinsically connected

So basically Failure is a part of Success and vica verca....

If we split the alphabet into 2 EC's and use the first half as Low and the last 13 as high we get....
Failure -  LLLLHHL
Success - HHLLLHH

But of course we don't have to label them High or Low we could call them 1 or 0

This gives us...
Failure  -1111001
Success - 0011100

Now looking at the sequence
10101101111001011101011110
I see Failure quiet obviously...
I see Success starting on the Even integers, and the 2 overlapping, only to end in Failure lol

Probably way off the mark...
Just looking at sh*t differently

#### RayManZ

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 17, 08:47 AM 2020
Watch this video(thanks CP) carefully, explains the 2LoTD principle.

It moves from orderliness(separate) towards disorder(mix). The stats of each state is the same. The microstate count of mix is far more than separate that makes the difference. The win occurs naturally without any prediction. Figure out the rest.

Cheers
CHT

Wow really cool stuff. I can understand that this can lead to a winning system.

So we just need to find a macrostate and a microstate for roulette. As im completely brainwashed by rrbb and priyanka im instantly thinking in cycles and all that other stuff. Maybe this is the missing piece to get more apples than pears.

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 18, 08:24 AM 2020
Online Roulette>How to win
1-computer fails as no late betting
2-Visual Ballistic fails , as no late betting,
3-Repeaters fails because of random ranges of repeater
..
Conclusion:
If someone watching roulette for an hour and he cannot predict  ball fall  then his every  system will fail..

#### Herby

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 19, 01:59 PM 2020
find a macrostate and a microstate for roulette

e.g. 37 spins: 12 Unhit, 15 single, 8 1-repeater, 2 2-repeater   is a macrostate

amount of all possible realisations of {12 Unhit, 15 single, 8 1-repeater, 2 2-repeater} are the microstates

How many microstates are possible ?

#### Steeefan2014

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 19, 02:03 PM 2020
e.g. 37 spins: 12 Unhit, 15 single, 8 1-repeater, 2 2-repeater   is a macrostate

amount of all possible realisations of {12 Unhit, 15 single, 8 1-repeater, 2 2-repeater} are the microstates

How many microstates are possible ?

A lot! All of them!

#### nottophammer

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 19, 02:31 PM 2020
Just watch the repeats in blocks of 10 spins; over 40 spins you usually see them as 1-3-5-7 and 30 repeats by spin60.
know when to bet for a repeat and the other way. Watch the General's laughable TROT. But Winkel know's the TROT, Shame the thick General can't do it.
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#### RayManZ

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 19, 03:01 PM 2020
e.g. 37 spins: 12 Unhit, 15 single, 8 1-repeater, 2 2-repeater   is a macrostate

amount of all possible realisations of {12 Unhit, 15 single, 8 1-repeater, 2 2-repeater} are the microstates

How many microstates are possible ?

This is very usefull if you use the AYK tracker and read with 6th told... Rolling basis.

Im not sure if it would be working but i have some ideas now. Thanks!

#### ati

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 20, 04:20 PM 2020
I disagree - majority of the players using the systems don't use them for "enjoyment", but because they deeply believe that they can win with them and get rich (potentially being the HG).

That's maybe true, but I think the people who post on the forum feel passionate about the game and there is a certain thrill that comes with the hope of hitting the jackpot. In our case finding a HG.

More advanced "players" know that finding it by chance or trial and error is impossible. I used quotation mark, because I believe many system "players" rarely ever play actual roulette for real money.
So some players like myself go deeper and investigate if it's possible to disprove or go around some facts that make all systems lose.
It's not about getting rich overnight anymore, it's more about the intellectual challenge. Of course winning money is an important driving force, but honestly I don't even know what I would do if one morning I woke up having a HG in my "pocket".

If you go deeper, then you will see all systems are built on the ignorance of not realizing that 1+1 = 2.
You have taken a very important step in the right direction, you have created an outcome that is not independent of other elements.

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 21, 07:44 AM 2020
I find it hard to believe that anyone who regularly plays does it for fun.

It's not fun to lose money.

Anyone who says otherwise is probably in denial with a gambling problem.
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#### Elite

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
May 29, 09:18 AM 2020
I played 14 sessions(14 deposit, 50 mostly  and max deposit 100) and able to make 600 units.(playing around 1h to 1:30 h). I loose  some sessions also . just to share my experience here.
1- Build  your game play slowly.putting small bets will make  familiarize with the current wheel situation
2-try to analyze each aspect, including dealer signature, patterns, repeaters,continuously,
3- what map is building in your mind play accordingly
4-Must have knowledge of repeaters, dealer signature,
5- try to predict roulette sectors during game play , seeing the speed of ball, wheel etc
6-once map is developed and some numbers are more clear to come. have to get advantage of increasing bets that time.
7-what if nothing working, accept loss and quit,
8- play with free and fresh mind, no stress, or hurry so have enough time to analyze wheel ,,
9-Never waste a single  chips if its more than target amount.. put each unit, based on some reason, not based on luck.
11. build your bankroll  even its one unit  profit.  example, if RED cherries is appearing, why not put a unit to get one unit.
12.If game is tough..long time ups and down , come out  even have small profit or have small loss. instead of loosing all
13 After each game analyse what worked or what make you failed...
14. when to quit is important,better to have target, so if near by target, play small games to get that , instead of commong back from target to 0
15. practice your game play with RX on live dealers.

Just my thoughts... which i used .

#### precogmiles

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
Sep 15, 03:39 PM 2020
Judging by the reason activity on the forum it seems like it will be another 10 years of failed systems.

#### pepper

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
Sep 17, 08:47 PM 2020
Judging by the reason activity on the forum it seems like it will be another 10 years of failed systems.
Nope. You're wrong. It will be much, much longer than 10 years.

Actually, these roulette forums are dying. The bogus systems will last until the death of roulette forums happens.

#### precogmiles

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##### Re: 10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?
Sep 18, 10:59 AM 2020
Actually, these roulette forums are dying.

It would seem so. The other two forums have threads exploring martingales and repeaters, in 2020