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Probability Vs Mathematical trends

Started by Yerg8, Aug 07, 04:06 AM 2020

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gizmotron2

Quote from: Joe on Aug 11, 12:03 PM 2020Gizmo, I have to wonder whether you're being deliberately obtuse. You're claiming there is no connection between spins, and yet you're playing AS IF there is one. Don't you see the contradiction?
To you it is a contradiction because you don't know what I'm saying.  I can use totally random bet selections and this will cause up and down waves that would also be win streaks and losing streaks. Are you with me so far?  This would have nothing to do with trends or any expectations of outcomes.

My goal in beating randomness is in acting against  the changes between win sequences and losing sequences.  That is what I have mastered. I have said clearly for years that math will never tell you when a win streak will start, how long it will last, and when it will end. Well I don't know these things either. In fact nobody knows this stuff. All you have is a guess. But I have noticed some coincidences that I have labeled characteristics, They come in patterns sometimes. They come in mini swarms for instance. I search for continuing patterns of micro win streaks.  You can't see them because you don't believe they exist and you have never been successful at anyone ever showing them to you. Just because you haven't seen these characteristics does not mean that they don't exist. I have demonstrated using them at Roulette Simulator where you can't hide your bet selections.

I target the upswings in the flow of the up and down waves. I attack when I'm in a perceived up trend in the win to loss ratio. I retreat when in a downward trend in the effectiveness conditions.  It has nothing to do with the future. It's all based on what is going on right now.  I use trends and patterns as formation structures in my playing charts because when they are working so is the micro win streak.  But I'm fully aware that trends and patterns end abruptly, sometimes just at the time that you recognize them. So that results in more losses than wins. Trends and pattern characteristics are just bet selection tactics in order to see if they are working or not. They have no value any better than selecting randomly. So I stay on the important point. Is it working right now or is it not working right now.  That is how I play. So I call all this coincidence. Nothing causes it to happen.
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gizmotron2

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Richard Meisel

Quote from: gizmotron2 on Aug 11, 02:04 PM 2020
Here, look at the waves:

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27269.msg241935#msg241935

Hi Giz, I noticed on this thread dated June 5, 10:44 AM 2020, you said: If you bother to check my play at Roulette Simulator you will see that I try to win every session. I did throw a blind Marti in there just to tick off the critics. Let’s hope they walk away and see nothing.
These spins will illustrate what Reading Randomness is really all about:
4,4,3,27,8,29,17,30,34,16,12,29,7,19,34,36,29,19,3,34,32,8,22,35,18,10,11,
28,8,21,7,15,19,15,31,27,13,25,10,9,33,19,24,25,11,15,18,32,25,27,19,2,20,
23,30,19,26,24,24,23,12,9,10,25,9,25,2,20,3,26,24,34,10,18,28,24,4,33,30,
28,7,31,9,9,12,32,35,11,26,16,31,29,33,26,29,2,7,18,14,11,

I noticed that on Spin 39 to Spin 50 there were 12 consecutive Odds! I would have Won 11 straight times! Past Spins do have effects for educated guesses.

gizmotron2

Quote from: Richard Meisel on Aug 11, 04:50 PM 2020I noticed that on Spin 39 to Spin 50 there were 12 consecutive Odds! I would have Won 11 straight times! Past Spins do have effects for educated guesses.
I use to play for the big trends. I would have won my 3 net wins on that streak and then gone. Did you read my explanation on becoming a millionaire with just 3 net wins per session? It's around here somewhere.
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gizmotron2

I only got 9 in a row. Here's that graph:

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winforus

Gizmo, these points still stand, which you didn't answer:

Quote from: Steve on Jul 02, 01:15 PM 2020
Gizmo, what you're not understanding is:

1. I do understand what you're saying about singles etc. I just know better and that your theories dont hold water.

You constantly provide "proof" like really short term charts showing loss, then recovery. I mean whats the point? It's meaningless, and you lost on rs anyway.

2. Nothing you've provided in any way substantiates your claims. I mean literally you provided nothing valid. Evem with RS, all you provided was a claim you'd be #1, then you lost and said it was deliberate to mess with people.

So literally you've provided nothing valid to back your claims. Don't get shitty at me for that. I'm not being difficult about it either.

You're claiming there is no connection between spins, and yet you're playing AS IF there is one. This is clearly the case.

Also, you lost on RS simulator and were not flat betting. If you have to use progression to win, you clearly don't have a winning method.

gizmotron2

Quote from: winforus on Aug 11, 07:52 PM 2020Also, you lost on RS simulator and were not flat betting. If you have to use progression to win, you clearly don't have a winning method.
Gee wiz. I said I bet big on win streaks and small on losing streaks. If you need that to be a progression then let it be that for you. Yes, I lost big time using a runaway double down. I did it so that people like you would fall for it. I'm currently stopping on +300 and ending the sessions there. So you can see me bet they way I do when I play to win. I can steady climb forever. It's a simple grinding method where I quit at 10% of my bankroll. I don't care if you think I side stepped questions. You are the enemy. I treat the enemy like crap.
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gizmotron2

Quote from: winforus on Aug 11, 07:52 PM 2020You're claiming there is no connection between spins, and yet you're playing AS IF there is one. This is clearly the case.
That's just your impression of the things you would like them to be. There can't be a connection. So I'm not claiming there is a connection. So I'm not playing as if there is a connection.  You can't be communicated with.
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winforus

Quote from: gizmotron2 on Aug 11, 08:15 PM 2020
Gee wiz. I said I bet big on win streaks and small on losing streaks. If you need that to be a progression then let it be that for you. Yes, I lost big time using a runaway double down. I did it so that people like you would fall for it. I'm currently stopping on +300 and ending the sessions there. So you can see me bet they way I do when I play to win. I can steady climb forever. It's a simple grinding method where I quit at 10% of my bankroll. I don't care if you think I side stepped questions. You are the enemy. I treat the enemy like crap.

You want me to bring up all of your quotes from your thread again?

You claimed you would be #1 and then lost - then you claimed you did it on purpose. You said the same thing when you attempted to win on MPR. Do you expect people to fall for your BS?

100% Apophenia - you see a connection where it doesn't exist.

You're claiming there is no connection between spins, and yet you're playing AS IF there is one. Full of contradictions.

And I am not making it up. Learn what flat betting means and what progression means. If you can't win by flat betting, it means that you don't have a winning method.

winforus

Quote from: gizmotron2 on Aug 11, 08:18 PM 2020
That's just your impression of the things you would like them to be. There can't be a connection. So I'm not claiming there is a connection. So I'm not playing as if there is a connection.  You can't be communicated with.

You are charting past spins and using past spins to determine where you will bet next! How is this playing without a connection?

You seem to be beyond delusional.

Moxy

Quote from: Joe on Aug 11, 01:36 AM 2020
So you believe in God but not religion? How is the 21st century relevant? Or are you making the argument :

  'Hey look at all this amazing science and technology we have now!  Therefore, God doesn't exist'.

If so, it's a terrible one, and merely chronological snobbery.

I'm not especially a fan of organized religion, but I believe in the god of classical theism, because there are some great arguments for it. My favourite is the Aristotelian proof (chapter 1).

Being facetious with that preface.  I knew someone was going to pick up on that. 

It's just a figure of speech.  Nothing more.

I'm a determinist atheist (functional) nihilist.  Nothing matters too much in my realm ~ if at all.

gizmotron2

Quote from: winforus on Aug 11, 08:28 PM 2020You are charting past spins and using past spins to determine where you will bet next! How is this playing without a connection?

You seem to be beyond delusional.
Thank you for rejecting it.  I could not be more glad for your life.
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gizmotron2

Quote from: winforus on Aug 11, 08:25 PM 2020You claimed you would be #1 and then lost
What? You don't like being manipulated?  I played 50 straight wins in a row and then lost using stupid progressions. I've done it three times.  I will keep doing it this way so that you have your reason to reject it. At the same time anyone can check out how I bet when I grind my way upward. It's two different things. One is real and the other is a red herring.  You don't like it. Well that's not really a problem. Watching jerks suck and complain while displaying their neediness, and then having them pretend that they know how to gamble is just my entertainment. You are my toy.  You act and live like a tool and it is the responsibility of those that know to treat you badly. I'm just doing a public service. I know this because of the ignorance that you hold up as enlightenment. You look ridiculous. It's a trend.
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gizmotron2

Quote from: winforus on Aug 11, 08:25 PM 2020Do you expect people to fall for your BS?
I expected you to fall for it.  I blew out 50 twice and then lost. I suppose those are just coincidental milestones?  How many of you people can win 50 in a row without a progression? It's not perfect flat betting. It's small bet big bet at targeted times. It's 15 bets of bankroll at the big bet price.  I spent a year telling how to play 7 / 3. I said that I had never lost 3 bankrolls at 7 in a row. I showed over time that I developed a 2 to 1 win to loss ratio over very large numbers of bets.  I confirmed that each time when I played 50 wins in a row. The truth is there to anyone that wants to dig deep enough to find it. The lie is there for anyone that wants to do no work and find an excuse to reject it. I know you mathZombies. You want to reject it. In fact if it is true then you and your opinion is dogshit.  I'm counting on having given you your excuses and watching you take it and eat it up. I'm just teaching others how to do this. Those that can will one day be my validation. And along the way I will have tied your tails into knots.
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gizmotron2

Quote from: winforus on Aug 11, 08:25 PM 2020And I am not making it up. Learn what flat betting means and what progression means. If you can't win by flat betting, it means that you don't have a winning method.

So how many wins in a row is enough for you? I can't use a virtual bet at a casino because they will ask me to give up my seat. So I place a minimal bet while still making a virtual bet selection on my charts.  I play at the littlest price until I see a workable moving average in the effectiveness states. I then use the big bet. That big bet is the flat bet.  As I have stated clearly I use ( 1, 2, ) - ( 2 - 1 ) - ( 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, etc) until a recovery occurs. I stop on 3 net wins, in this case now +300. I'm using a base bet of 180 and a big bet of 360 to get to +300. It's right there to read it. I'm not trying to hide anything. Your 11th commandment of flat betting is just crap in your head, zombie. You have my steps. I could switch to virtual bets ( nothing ) and 180 while stopping at +300. Let's see you win 100 games in a row with virtual bets and one fixed big bet only. You can't do it. So you have zero credibility.
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