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Would this strategy be viable?

Started by Citi, Sep 20, 11:17 AM 2020

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Citi

Hey people. Roulette noob, somehow up a few thousand don't ask me how I don't know how.

So the strategy I'm thinking of is betting on 1st and 2nd dozen, and even. One unit on each. According to my calculations:

~48.6% chance I win
~17.1% chance I lose
~34.3% chance I draw

I know this is super simple so there must be something faulty, besides the fact that the wheel could just decide to spin on odd 3rd dozens 20 times in a row if it wants to.

I feel like a moron asking this question but I'm learning more about roulette everyday.

byzel

simple system, simple maths
even and doz1+2 : 2-24 > +2  12/37 (32,4%) +64,8
odd and doz1+2 : 1-23 > +0  12/37 (32,4%)
even and not in doz1+2 : 26-36 > -1  6/37 (16,2%) -16,2
odd and not in doz1+2 : 0 + 25-35 > -3  7/37 (18,9%) -56,75
as always with random, you will catch upswings and downswings but on a non-biased wheel betting every spin like this, you end up at -8,15 per cycle

ati

Hi Citi,

Don't worry, we've all been there. Many people on this forum - including myself - thought at one point that we could arrange the chips on the table in a special way, so that we would win more than we lose.
What's important is that each individual bet has a constant negative expected return. With 2.7% house edge, your bet of 3 units per spin has an expected loss of 0.081 units per spin.

It's very useful to learn basic excel coding, so you don't have to spend hours and days testing something spin by spin.
I have attached an excel sheet that simulates your idea on 1000 spins. The expected loss is 81 units. You can generate a new set of numbers with F9 or add your own numbers in column A.

Steve

Quote from: ati on Sep 22, 05:26 PM 2020Don't worry, we've all been there. Many people on this forum - including myself - thought at one point that we could arrange the chips on the table in a special way, so that we would win more than we lose.

Yes, we've all been clueless morons before. I'm no different.

But at some point you need to wake up and learn.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
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Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

MumboJumbo

Ok noob.
Every system based on dozens, rows and even chances will failed.
To be roulette master try to learn from numbers from 0 to 36

Citi

Quote from: ati on Sep 22, 05:26 PM 2020
Hi Citi,

Don't worry, we've all been there. Many people on this forum - including myself - thought at one point that we could arrange the chips on the table in a special way, so that we would win more than we lose.
What's important is that each individual bet has a constant negative expected return. With 2.7% house edge, your bet of 3 units per spin has an expected loss of 0.081 units per spin.

It's very useful to learn basic excel coding, so you don't have to spend hours and days testing something spin by spin.
I have attached an excel sheet that simulates your idea on 1000 spins. The expected loss is 81 units. You can generate a new set of numbers with F9 or add your own numbers in column A.

Thank you so much. I can tell you care about my roulette. Going into a casino with a computer isn't feasible for me right now, what would be my next best option that I can do further research on? I can only play online roulette as of now. Maybe if I was able to guess the numbers 10% of the time let's say, then I could beat the house edge?

Citi

Quote from: MumboJumbo on Sep 23, 04:25 AM 2020
Ok noob.
Every system based on dozens, rows and even chances will failed.
To be roulette master try to learn from numbers from 0 to 36

I see that. I have an online roulette casino, Bovada, that I believe to be fair, because I've done a few thousand spins, and the math worked out as it should. What's a good way to learn inside the numbers for online play?

Citi

Quote from: Steve on Sep 22, 08:21 PM 2020
Yes, we've all been clueless morons before. I'm no different.

But at some point you need to wake up and learn.

For sure. I'm exploring the forum a lot, looking to see something that could work for me.

MumboJumbo

Quote from: Citi on Sep 23, 12:12 PM 2020
I see that. I have an online roulette casino, Bovada, that I believe to be fair, because I've done a few thousand spins, and the math worked out as it should. What's a good way to learn inside the numbers for online play?
First you need to learn Law Of The Third, once you understand this number distribution it will open many gates for you.

Citi

Quote from: MumboJumbo on Sep 23, 03:10 PM 2020
First you need to learn Law Of The Third, once you understand this number distribution it will open many gates for you.

Thank you for letting me know about this law. I've found a very long book on the law. I'll study it very closely and come back with you with what I've learned and what I can do better. But from what I've read so far, this gives us a general estimate of the numbers to come?

And from what I understand, the only long term strategy in roulette is using psychics/computer. But with this method, it's short term, but it's about as long term as short term gets? If that makes sense lol. And by using the strategy, I should be able to gain an edge over the house, if roulette was treated as such?

precogmiles

Systems don't work. Short or long term.

Have you watch any of Steve's videos on roulette?

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