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MEISEL'S LAW OF THE 2ND THIRD

Started by Richard Meisel, Sep 30, 02:12 PM 2020

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leoncino74

Quote from: Serendipity on Oct 02, 12:18 PM 2020
Only doubles for repeaters!

scusami non capisco... 14 unhit +9 repeter = 25... lui gioca solo 17-21 numeri, da dove viene fuori questa somma

Richard Meisel

Quote from: cht on Oct 02, 12:43 PM 2020-5/-1.7/+7
Quote from: cht on Oct 02, 12:43 PM 2020
Unhits must be due.
Repeaters are hot to hit again.

Track against expected hitrate at such and such a spin.

Classic gambler's fallacy.  >:D

I created a thread specially for you.  :)
I disagree about not betting on repeaters. If you treat the Last Spin as if it were the 37th Spin, then I've figured out that from that Spin until the 18th Spin the difference in Unhits, Uniques, and Repeaters will be (-5 unhits) (-1,7 uniques) and (+7 repeaters). So Bet on the Unhits AND the Repeaters as you see there will be a +7 on the Repeaters and 5 Hits. Check it out yourself. Check from the 37th Spin until the 55th Spin and see the difference.

cht

Quote from: Richard Meisel on Oct 06, 02:57 PM 2020
I disagree about not betting on repeaters. If you treat the Last Spin as if it were the 37th Spin, then I've figured out that from that Spin until the 18th Spin the difference in Unhits, Uniques, and Repeaters will be (-5 unhits) (-1,7 uniques) and (+7 repeaters). So Bet on the Unhits AND the Repeaters as you see there will be a +7 on the Repeaters and 5 Hits. Check it out yourself. Check from the 37th Spin until the 55th Spin and see the difference.
When you disagree you must have math and/or science basis why you expressed your opinion.

You bet unhits and repeats(average 24numbers) hoping to win 12spins out of 18spins.

There's no advantage there.
The tracking requires the use of some computer code(ayk tracker) to track rolling 37snumbers.

Ok I believe your observational evidence BUT still there's no math and/or science advantage.

So, what I did was to "borrow" your idea played on rsim with the use of real math and science basis - ENTROPY.

Started from spins 42-59(missing info) for 18spins.
Simple game without all those sophisticated tracker programs.
Eyes and brain. :)


cht

This is the 18th spin result. :)

Nobody can produce such a result without math and physics basis that I have posted all over the forum.
Educate yourself then you can apply the principles to produce the same results.

You can play this manually only in b&m casino.

Or you have to code a bot to play automated in online live dealer wheels.

MumboJumbo

On real table your bankroll will be totally wipeout  :lol:

Clf7

Quote from: cht on Oct 06, 11:05 PM 2020
This is the 18th spin result. :)

Nobody can produce such a result without math and physics basis that I have posted all over the forum.
Educate yourself then you can apply the principles to produce the same results.

You can play this manually only in b&m casino.

Or you have to code a bot to play automated in online live dealer wheels.

Why only in a B&M, why not at an Online Casino? You claimed only brain and eyes not tracking software

cht

Quote from: MumboJumbo on Oct 07, 06:46 AM 2020
On real table your bankroll will be totally wipeout  :lol:
You got your understanding of the math wrong. Educate yourself.

***I won't respond to any opinion that has no math or science basis.

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27425.msg244822#msg244822

Quote from: Clf7 on Oct 07, 08:03 AM 2020
Why only in a B&M, why not at an Online Casino? You claimed only brain and eyes not tracking software
Online live dealer wheels have small 15-20seconds betting window that's not possible to place 19 bets manually.

Clf7

Quote from: cht on Oct 07, 08:29 AM 2020
Online live dealer wheels have small 15-20seconds betting window that's not possible to place 19 bets manually.

It is possible with a lot of practice but ofc in the long run mistakes will happen....so a bot will be better....Ok got it

cht

This recent video that describes the difference between bayesian and frequentist philosophy is relevant to our guessing the roulette outcomes.

I realised I was  bayesian until I changed my mindset to frequentist that allowed me to make big strides since.

This video may help some of you realise your own perspective and help you discover your other blind side.

link:s://youtu.be/GEFxFVESQXc

cht

Another great video about the difference between analytics and statistics.

What you find on gambling forums are wannabe statisticians. To design systems bet you got to be a visionary analytics with creative ideas most of which is junk. With the help of statistics you can verify the very few ideas that hold up. Statisticians won't help you create your guessing ideas.

I have always written, the analytics solution has to be beyond basic statistics.

link:s://youtu.be/YsrPImZyisI

cht

This is the most important lesson I learnt(not from this video) that helped propel my game upward. Its called outcome bias. Notice that my model is always eventA vs eventB 50:50. Learn this "secret" from this video.

link:s://youtu.be/x84RsnUzNtE

cht

To all the naysayers, in the absence of evidence your rejection of the rsim results posted before you is ridiculous.
Learn the math.  :)

I can keep on going to point out the lack of knowledge and understanding. But you get the message by now.

link:s://youtu.be/bb29nKlTM5E

JAMBOBRA2020

Quote from: cht on Oct 07, 08:29 AM 2020
You got your understanding of the math wrong. Educate yourself.

***I won't respond to any opinion that has no math or science basis.

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27425.msg244822#msg244822
Online live dealer wheels have small 15-20seconds betting window that's not possible to place 19 bets manually.

This exactly the time required is not enough. I learnt that today but was very happy with my results. With true mathematical understanding  it becomes clear there are only a finite number of possible outcomes. It is not even required to cover 19 numbers at the beginning of your play

Serendipity

Quote from: JAMBOBRA2020 on Oct 07, 02:58 PM 2020
This exactly the time required is not enough. I learnt that today but was very happy with my results. With true mathematical understanding  it becomes clear there are only a finite number of possible outcomes. It is not even required to cover 19 numbers at the beginning of your play
Please, go on
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right!

JAMBOBRA2020

Quote from: Serendipity on Oct 07, 03:47 PM 2020
Please, go on

I’m going to a bm casino today to test this for real. From what I tested yesterday online and the maths this appears to be a sound strategy. But proof is in the pudding so will put the money down today and update with results.

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