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Re: When to Start
Oct 10, 07:23 AM 2021
LOL LOOL

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Re: When to Start
Oct 10, 03:54 PM 2021


here is ..lets say ...the version ayk streams tracker but with built in position on derived streams for splits ..
streets...ds ..the 4 quads..and dozens...which show underneath the tracker...

users of the normal ayk tracker will notice its pretty much the same features...but slightly laid out differently ..as in top bar is below table input...there is also no step button..though you can import and export your spins...

the white column next to the coloured main numbers shows when either side closes a cycle...

left hand side of each is main stream results...right hand side is the derived positional results...

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER...POSITIONAL RESULTS IS POSITIONS..AND POSITIONS ONLY ..

the results from main stream dictate what is in those positions and what from last spin actually moves into that position...make sure you read that properly and understand

extract rar file and open folder then click on index...

 

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Re: When to Start
Oct 10, 09:19 PM 2021
Wonderful tracker.  Thanks for the share, 6th!

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Re: When to Start
Oct 10, 10:46 PM 2021
If we not playing for repeat and not playing for unique then for what we playing?

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Re: When to Start
Oct 11, 03:49 AM 2021
will have to see what blueprints ideas are now buddy...the tracker is there for all to see and use

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Re: When to Start
Oct 11, 01:50 PM 2021
Rrbb mentioned  in the second stream(dynamic stream) a repeat would happen 99.7% on the low side.

His quote

How? For example: when we have a repeat in the first set on the straights, in the second set, this will occur in 99.7% of the cases on "low". Or, even stricter: a repeat on straights in one system will will occur in the second system for 99.99994% on the first two dozens.

So are we talking about betting on positions on the low end of the dynamic stream?


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Re: When to Start
Oct 11, 04:10 PM 2021
will have to see what blueprints ideas are now buddy...the tracker is there for all to see and use

There is no shortage of ideas. 

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Re: When to Start
Oct 12, 11:13 AM 2021
Quote taken from Nichedelico's post from a couple of pages back ( quoting CHT )



" ""Is it like a statistical constant that drives everything, but it hasn't been mentioned and we have to find it?"

HI Drazen,

This constant is denoted by X in the equation I posted on the other thread.

Yes you have to figure it out from the perspective of PhP. PhP help guide you to this next principle."

FROM CHT "



Where is the equation posted on the other thread ? Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

Cheers.

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Re: When to Start
Oct 12, 11:26 AM 2021
So just take the 6 lines as an example. You start with 123456. That’s the first stream.

8 comes out. That’s line 2

The new stream 213456

Then 24

New stream is

421356

And so on….it is said that repeats come from the most recent numbers or low end of the partition of the stream.

So you just bet the first 3 numbers of the new stream? I don’t know. Just thinking aloud. Could be worthless.

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Re: When to Start
Oct 12, 11:51 AM 2021
Where is the equation posted on the other thread ? Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

Cheers.

The pigeonhole principle translated into math when applied to roulette outcomes is:

nlog2(1/37)+.....+nlog2(1/(37-(r+1))+.....nlog2(1/(x-r+1))+.....nlog2(1/2)

Hope that helps

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Re: When to Start
Oct 12, 03:14 PM 2021
The pigeonhole principle translated into math when applied to roulette outcomes is:

nlog2(1/37)+.....+nlog2(1/(37-(r+1))+.....nlog2(1/(x-r+1))+.....nlog2(1/2)

Hope that helps

Cheers

Hi Drazen , thanks for that. Tbh , that type of equation does not come easily to me , I think I was hoping for the other thread that was mentioned.

This statement made by you seems to be key.

" Or in other words, is it possible to play roulette like drawing cards from a deck and not putting them back? "

You have to narrow down the options by eliminating other choices , this is what I understand by pigeon hole principle from reading the link given.

Look at this example :-

" If you pick five numbers from the integers 1 to 8, then two of them must add up to nine.

Let's say 1 of our multiple streams comes out 1,2,3,4. then no matter which one of the 5,6,7,8 comes out first then we have a pigeon hole created/filled according to our rule above. Now how do we know what to bet and when? I don't have the answer yet. The answer might be to combine this pigeon hole with something else like a cycle , another stream creating another pigeon hole that we can cross reference etc., or something else ?

Just throwing this out there.

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Re: When to Start
Oct 13, 03:32 AM 2021
The pigeonhole principle translated into math when applied to roulette outcomes is:

nlog2(1/37)+.....+nlog2(1/(37-(r+1))+.....nlog2(1/(x-r+1))+.....nlog2(1/2)

Drazen, thanks but to be an equation there should be an = sign with something on either side of it, so it's not complete. It's just a series of terms. Can you show how it is derived?

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Drazen

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Re: When to Start
Oct 13, 04:24 AM 2021
Drazen, thanks but to be an equation there should be an = sign with something on either side of it, so it's not complete. It's just a series of terms. Can you show how it is derived?

Hi

I am not the one who came up with it and I don't understand how to apply it to roulette. Sorry about that.


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Re: When to Start
Oct 13, 07:16 PM 2021
As much clueless but ..

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by CHT

I posted this video on the other forum.  It's about information entropy. The key is to understand the state of entropy given the information at hand.

youtu.be/9r7FIXEAGvs

In roulette this 2 formulas are relevant,

1/37 * 35/37 *...(n=35) * 1/37
= ln2(1/37) + ln2(35/37) +...ln2(n=35) + ln2(1/37)

And 18/37 *...(n=18) * 18/37 *...(n=18) * 1/37
= ln2(18/37) +...ln2(n=18) + ln2(18/37) +...ln2(n=18) + ln2(1/37)

Watch the video to understand the meaning of both these equations.

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Re: When to Start
Oct 14, 01:59 AM 2021
I always thought that The equation must contain The "equal" sign.  =
I don't have TheHolyGrail.